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If you don't mind, I've switched to framapad that doesn't need any
account to edit:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lite.framapad.org/p/HtIWJQZv7m">http://lite.framapad.org/p/HtIWJQZv7m</a><br>
and started to rewrite the first paragraph:<br>
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<div class="ace-line" id="magicdomid28"><span class="b"><b><br>
Pure Data</b></span><span class=""> (aka P</span><span
class="author-a-z90zz80zz73zb2z82zz71z8gvz85z0hz74zz74zo">d</span><span
class="">) is a</span><span
class="author-a-z90zz80zz73zb2z82zz71z8gvz85z0hz74zz74zo">n open
source</span><span class=""> visual programming language used
for multimedia processing</span><span
class="author-a-z90zz80zz73zb2z82zz71z8gvz85z0hz74zz74zo">.
Starting from a blank page, you graphically create your own
software to design realtime multimedia creation (sound, video,
3D), physical interfacing (sensors, 3D camera, joystick), motor
control, network communications or any other data computing. Pd
is widely used all over the world by a community of people
coming from different fields: musicians, visual artist,
researchers, developers, performers, spectacle technicians...</span></div>
<br>
I think it lacks an ending...<br>
let's finish it together!<br>
n<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 20/11/12 19:41, Marco Donnarumma a
écrit :<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:CAJTYuasAKg53oGhvT=BJda4jdmTkTyHSCXhZ50PYsOOMzbt+Kw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">great Andràs, thanks.<br>
<br>
I agree with HC, we should be more radical, and focus the first
paragraph on a very simple and concise statement on what Pd does,
and who is interested in using it (see processing and max example
posted by HC).<br>
<br>
- what it does (sound, image, www, for installation, performances,
concerts, interactive scenery, etc... let's use some keywords
here)<br>
- who find it useful (artist, programmers, musicians, video
artist, dance company, hardware makers because it's so portable)<br>
- where to get it (your paragraph looks very good to me)<br>
- who did it and why<br>
<br>
that should be more than enough...<br>
my 2cents!<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
<br clear="all">
--<br>
Marco Donnarumma<br>
New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.<br>
Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team.<br>
Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:20 PM,
Hans-Christoph Steiner <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hans@at.or.at"
target="_blank">hans@at.or.at</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>That's steps in the right direction, for sure. I think
you should take a more radical approach: start writing
things from scratch, then use the old one as a source for
some text here and there.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The current text does a terrible job of explaining to
total newbies what Pd is and why they might be interested.
The Processing blurb is decent:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<p>"Processing is an open source programming language and
environment for people who want to create images,
animations, and interactions. Initially developed to
serve as a software sketchbook and to teach fundamentals
of computer programming within a visual context,
Processing also has evolved into a tool for generating
finished professional work. Today, there are tens of
thousands of students, artists, designers, researchers,
and hobbyists who use Processing for learning,
prototyping, and production." <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://processing.org/"
target="_blank">http://processing.org/</a></p>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Max/MSP is worth looking at too:</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>"For over twenty years, Max has been used by
performers, artists, and composers to make cutting-edge
work by connecting basic functional blocks together into
unique applications. Max gives you the parts to make your
own music, sound, video, and interactive media
applications. Simply add objects to a visual canvas and
connect them together to make noise, experiment, and
play." <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://cycling74.com/products/max/"
target="_blank">http://cycling74.com/products/max/</a></div>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<div><br>
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<div><br>
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<div>.hc</div>
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</font></span>
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<div class="h5">
<div>On Nov 17, 2012, at 2:21 PM, András Murányi
wrote:</div>
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<div>
<div class="h5">Sirs,<br>
<br>
I've made a proposal, please take a look and
comment:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VrM68BbNvi0VrPaLv3__C_wvNgxd5KK2Pp3Ci_1V17s/edit"
target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VrM68BbNvi0VrPaLv3__C_wvNgxd5KK2Pp3Ci_1V17s/edit</a><br>
(comments are enabled, editing is disabled, please
start a new doc for eventual revisions)<br>
<br>
András<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at
11:40 AM, Nicolas Montgermont <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr"
target="_blank">nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">We
had a discussion in march about the home
text:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pdweb/2012-03/000843.html"
target="_blank">http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pdweb/2012-03/000843.html</a><br>
it stopped too early :)<br>
This may be a base to start<br>
n<br>
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<hr size="1"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold">De :</span></b>
Marco Donnarumma <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:devel@thesaddj.com"
target="_blank">devel@thesaddj.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">À :</span></b>
András Murányi <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:muranyia@gmail.com"
target="_blank">muranyia@gmail.com</a>>
<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc :</span></b>
"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pdweb@iem.at"
target="_blank">pdweb@iem.at</a>
Web" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pdweb@iem.at"
target="_blank">pdweb@iem.at</a>>
<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Envoyé
le :</span></b> Dimanche 11
novembre 2012 16h56<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet :</span></b>
Re: [Pdweb] rename "download Pd" to
"Downloads"<br>
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<div> <br>
<div>good idea, yes, maybe send us
your content, this list has way
less members than the others,<br>
so we can edit
collaboratively/agree on things
quite fast.<br>
<br>
thanks!<br>
<br clear="all">
--<br>
Marco Donnarumma<br>
New Media + Sonic Arts
Practitioner, Performer, Teacher,
Director.<br>
Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction
Research Team.<br>
Department of Computing,
Goldsmiths University of London<br>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
Portfolio: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="http://marcodonnarumma.com/"
target="_blank">http://marcodonnarumma.com</a><br>
Research: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/"
target="_blank">http://res.marcodonnarumma.com</a><br>
Director: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/"
target="_blank">http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:34
PM, András Murányi <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="mailto:muranyia@gmail.com"
target="_blank">muranyia@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
Now I'd just enrich the intro
text on the main page with
some direct links (for RJDJ,
LibPd and whatever is
mentioned there) and I think a
tiny bit of clarification is
missing about Vanilla
(currently mentioned as "The
Core of Pd) and extended (not
mentioned at all). If there
are no objections, I'll commit
directly to the page,
otherwise I'll post a revised
version here first.<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
András</font></span>
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<div><br>
<br>
<div>On Sat, Nov 10, 2012
at 12:28 PM, Marco
Donnarumma <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="mailto:devel@thesaddj.com"
target="_blank">devel@thesaddj.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0
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#ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
yea, nice..
<div><br>
<br clear="all">
--<br>
Marco Donnarumma<br>
New Media + Sonic
Arts Practitioner,
Performer, Teacher,
Director.<br>
Embodied
Audio-Visual
Interaction Research
Team.<br>
Department of
Computing,
Goldsmiths
University of London<br>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br>
Portfolio: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="http://marcodonnarumma.com/"
target="_blank">http://marcodonnarumma.com</a><br>
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moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="http://res.marcodonnarumma.com/"
target="_blank">http://res.marcodonnarumma.com</a><br>
Director: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
rel="nofollow"
href="http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net/"
target="_blank">http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net</a><br>
<br>
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<div>On Fri, Nov
9, 2012 at 10:28
PM, András
Murányi <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" href="mailto:muranyia@gmail.com"
target="_blank">muranyia@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0
0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>
<div>On Fri,
Nov 9, 2012 at
10:18 PM,
András Murányi
<span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" href="mailto:muranyia@gmail.com"
target="_blank">muranyia@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote
style="margin:0
0 0
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#ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>On Fri,
Nov 9, 2012 at
12:53 AM,
Marco
Donnarumma <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow" href="mailto:devel@thesaddj.com"
target="_blank">devel@thesaddj.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0
0 0
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#ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">
if I remember
correctly,
adding
something to a
page might be
tricky (at
least with
this version
of Plone, the
only I know).<br>
I will look
into it,
although I
don't have
much time at
the moment, so
anybody who
wants to chip
in before me
is welcome :)<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div> <br>
Let me into
the Zope
Management
Interface and
I'll try to
tame the old
beast.<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
András<br>
</font></span></div>
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</blockquote>
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<br>
</div>
</div>
Oh! Just
noticed the
fresh changes.
The links on
the top of the
right column
are cooler
then I thought
(ie both links
are there),
bravo!<br>
As for the
menu, I'd
suggest
"Downloads"
instead of
"Download"
then.<span></span><br>
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