Not knowing much about Plone yet, I agree with the plan, except that step 1 shall be performed by someone having FTP access to the site (IOhannes).<br>So do I understand right, that rather than migrating the whole content as it is, you are suggesting a restructuring/cleanup? If so, I support the idea, but the process will need to be refined further.<br>
<br>András<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Nicolas Montgermont <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">nicolas_montgermont@yahoo.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello all,<br>
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I was thinking on how we may manage this switching, specially if we must have to start from a fresh install, I think there are few clear steps:<br>
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1 - installing a new hidden plone.<br>
2 - thinking the architecture of the new site<br>
3 - filling the architecture with the "old" content<br>
4 - graphical design of the new site<br>
5 - filling the website with member contents<br>
6 - checking and switching to the new version.<br>
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A proposal on how we should do that:<br>
step 1 : handled by Andras.<br>
step 2 : discussion on this list<br>
step 3 : handled by section responsables (if we agree on this kind of organisation)<br>
step 4 : discussion on this list and marco's implementation.<br>
step 5 : maybe we can send a mail to every member of the actual site to have them move their own content?<br>
step 6 : pdweb-list and maybe pd-list help.<br>
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I think it's no problem if we have all this switching lasting a few months. The longest step for me is step 5, and I think it's really better if we let a long time to people to switch their content.<br>
An intermediate part of the website between members and architecture is the community section, where it is good to have people create their own page for patching circles and others. I am ok to write a little tutorial to achieve an homogen creation of specific pages, and to write individual mails to each local groups member.<br>
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best,<br>
n<br>
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Le 09/11/12 22:41, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :<br>
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On 11/09/2012 07:06 PM, András Murányi wrote:<br>
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Definitely that is the way. By "duplicating" I meant exactly this: to<br>
make a completely independent, not publicly visible copy of the existing<br>
web site, where we can play around until it's perfect.<br>
Attention: we'll have to take into account, however, that the existing<br>
web site may evolve meanwhile we're playing around with the copy, so<br>
before finally swapping in the new one for the old one, we'll have to<br>
make sure that any content that was added to the new one is reflected on<br>
the new one as well. We'll how see how exactly this is best achieved.<br>
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glad to see so much activity here...<br>
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About the first steps: according to [1] it's not really a copy of the<br>
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the biggest problem i remember is, that the <a href="http://puredata.info" target="_blank">puredata.info</a> instance uses a custom plone product for storing media files on the filesystem rather than within the zodb.<br>
currently, there are about 3GB of files external to the zodb; after an upgrade those files should still be available somehow.<br>
this might require either someone with zope/plone skills illing to upgrade that product manually or a patient hand (manually copying the files).<br>
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existing site that we'll need but an EMPTY Plone 3.3.x install. When<br>
IOhannes has the time to set it up, we're ready to go.<br>
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i'm basically out-of-office for the next 2 weeks, but after that my stress level should diminsh considerably.<br>
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fgmasdr<br>
IOhannes<br>
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