[GEM-dev] osx fullscreen changes survey

[cyrille henry]

hello,

sorry, i forget to reply to this mail earlier.

maybe it's to late, but : I just have a 1 commment about 'esc' and 
exiting fullscreen.

I know that it's frustrating to have the gemwin fullscreen without any 
solution to close it. this is why i don't use gemwin, but an abstraction 
   composed with gemwin and gemkeyname / select escape / destroy

yes, pressing 'esc' is standard for game to exit fullscreen mode, but it 
is not standard for interactive installation (where the gem windows 
should not be destroy).
i think gem is more used for interactive instalation than for game 
developement...

another exemple : imagine that you press the esc key during a 
performance while trying to find the F1 key. it's scarry for me to have 
such feature.

i think it really would be nice if the 'esc' -> exit feature is not 
coded inside gem, but inside user patch (like i curently do).

so, please : do not code the esc to exit fullscreen.

thanks
Cyrille


james tittle a écrit :
> hey,
> 
> ...well, it had to happen sometime!  I've finally come around to a  need 
> for a 'kiosk'-like presentation via gem, on a single monitor/ 
> touchscreen...we've been a bit conservative in allowing this, because  
> without the proper foresight/design, it's incredibly easy to lock  
> yourself out of the computer, and thereby require a hard restart :-)
> 
> ...so, I'm going to go ahead and make it possible in a coupla  different 
> ways, but I also want to have an easy way to get out of  it...basically, 
> I'm talking about taking over the escape key, such  that whenever we're 
> in fullscreen or fullscreen-windowed mode,  hitting the escape button 
> will destroy the window...there is a  caveat:  this will only always 
> work in my pd++.app (or derivations  thereof), because keyboard input in 
> gem is dependent on the gem  window being front "focused"...
> 
> ...I think the best way to do this is two pronged:
> 
> 1.  a "fullscreen 1" message will capture the main device, hiding the  
> dock/menubar/option-tab application selector...it'll also always  cause 
> the window to be "focused", so 'esc' will always work...plus,  in this 
> state we control the VRAM, so we can manage that better...
> 
> 2.  creating a window the size of the screen without a fullscreen  
> message, and without an offset to another device, would also cover  the 
> screen, and either automatically turn off the dock/menubar/option- 
> tab-selector, or do so by another message
> 
> ...does this sound ok?  I think using 'esc' for exiting fullscreen is  
> pretty standard in the gaming world and so would be an easy fit  
> here...In any event, I'll be doing it this weekend...
> 
> jamie
> 
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