[GEM-dev] gem 64-bit?
Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans at at.or.at
Wed Oct 7 18:42:33 CEST 2009
64-bit Gem on Mac OS X could drop Quicktime/Carbon in favor of
gstreamer and/or gmerlin which I believe is already implemented on GNU/
Linux. Then its just window management, which doesn't seem so huge,
but I haven't done it before.
Am I right in assuming that Gem could really benefit by 64-bit because
it would allow it to use more than 4 gigs of RAM?
.hc
On Oct 7, 2009, at 11:26 AM, chris clepper wrote:
> There is no 64 bit Carbon support at all. Apple killed it years ago.
>
> All of the window management and Quicktime code is Carbon. The
> rewrite for Cocoa and 64 bit would be hundreds if not thousands of
> hours of work.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
> <hans at at.or.at> wrote:
>
> There seems to be some 64-bit support for Carbon, considering the
> Carbon framework is shipped as 64-bit in 10.5. I know that Carbon
> is basically deprecated, but IIRC, some parts of it are 64-bit.
> Which parts rely on Carbon?
>
> file /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Carbon
> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Carbon: Mach-O universal
> binary with 4 architectures
> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Carbon (for architecture
> ppc7400): Mach-O dynamically linked shared library ppc
> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Carbon (for architecture
> ppc64): Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library ppc64
> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Carbon (for architecture
> i386): Mach-O dynamically linked shared library i386
> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Carbon (for architecture
> x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
>
>
> .hc
>
> On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:18 AM, chris clepper wrote:
>
>> GEM uses Carbon which is not 64 bit. Most apps (Photoshop,
>> ProTools, etc) on OSX have no path to 64 bit without a nearly
>> complete rewrite.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2009, at 4:54 PM, chris clepper wrote:
>>
>>> It never will be 64 bit on OSX.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> For this upcoming Pd-extended 0.42 release, we should start
>>> releasing 64-bit builds. Is Gem in 64-bit ready for prime time?
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
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