[PD-cvs] pd/src TODO,1.1.2.28.2.53,1.1.2.28.2.54

Thu Aug 2 20:32:21 CEST 2007

Update of /cvsroot/pure-data/pd/src
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RCS file: /cvsroot/pure-data/pd/src/Attic/TODO,v
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*** TODO	2 Aug 2007 01:31:33 -0000	1.1.2.28.2.53
--- TODO	2 Aug 2007 18:32:19 -0000	1.1.2.28.2.54
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  [ ] graphical array rendering optimization
  [ ] fix double delete of [pd].
! [ ] added "version 2" syntax parser (optional), which has nested lists,
      extended quoting, extended float syntax
      (some ex-symbols now parsed as floats: +1 +1.0 +1e8 0x10 and so on.)
--- 73,77 ----
  [ ] graphical array rendering optimization
  [ ] fix double delete of [pd].
! [s] added "version 2" syntax parser (optional), which has nested lists,
      extended quoting, extended float syntax
      (some ex-symbols now parsed as floats: +1 +1.0 +1e8 0x10 and so on.)
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     [operator2-rule] [operator2-test]

! [ ] those are the externs that have to be recompiled if I want to trap calls to return values of getfn.
    ./externals/olafmatt/clone/clone.c:544:    mess1(&cv->gl_pd, gensym("dsp"), sp);
    ./externals/grill/dynext/src/main.cpp:952: mess1((t_pd *)canvas,const_cast<t_symbol *>(sym_dsp),NULL);
--- 94,98 ----
     [operator2-rule] [operator2-test]

! [s] those are the externs that have to be recompiled if I want to trap calls to return values of getfn.
    ./externals/olafmatt/clone/clone.c:544:    mess1(&cv->gl_pd, gensym("dsp"), sp);
    ./externals/grill/dynext/src/main.cpp:952: mess1((t_pd *)canvas,const_cast<t_symbol *>(sym_dsp),NULL);
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  [c] array button doesn't work (menuarray)
  [ ] implement timeout in def Manager call
! [ ] finish merging 0.40 (wasn't it finished?)
! [ ] merge 0.41 (no?)
! [ ] proper symbol quoting
! [ ] refcounted symbols
! [ ] patching-in-tongues follow-up
! [ ] def def
! [ ] take care of needless "save changes?"
  [ ] make List objects, to manage children, visible_children, wires, selection, selection_wires.
  [ ] skip unneeded motion events inside client (do we need this?)
--- 131,141 ----
  [c] array button doesn't work (menuarray)
  [ ] implement timeout in def Manager call
! [s] finish merging 0.40 (wasn't it finished?)
! [s] merge 0.41 (no?)
! [s] proper symbol quoting
! [s] refcounted symbols
! [c] patching-in-tongues follow-up
! [c] def def
! [c] take care of needless "save changes?"
  [ ] make List objects, to manage children, visible_children, wires, selection, selection_wires.
  [ ] skip unneeded motion events inside client (do we need this?)
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  [ ] kill global tooltip variable ?
  [c] iemprops: min,max labels broken
! [ ] futurewire should be able to deal with wires that are not connected to outlet, but connected to a inlet.
!     it's for future ctrl+click
! [ ] fix the [key] and [keyup] and [mouse] (?) classes
! [ ] fix all issues with backslashes and braces.
! [ ] write an installer in Tcl/Tk.
! [ ] canvas_object_insert()
  [ ] simplify def Dialog add
  [ ] devlist isn't supposed to be like a choice, rather like several choices.
! [ ] implement def Canvas tidy
! [ ] set tk::mac::useCGDrawing 1
  [s] differential upload
  [c] differential redraw
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  [ ] kill global tooltip variable ?
  [c] iemprops: min,max labels broken
! [b] fix the [key] and [keyup] and [mouse] (?) classes
! [s] fix all issues with backslashes and braces.
! [-] write an installer in Tcl/Tk.
! [s] canvas_object_insert()
  [ ] simplify def Dialog add
  [ ] devlist isn't supposed to be like a choice, rather like several choices.
! [c] implement def Canvas tidy
! [c] set tk::mac::useCGDrawing 1
  [s] differential upload
  [c] differential redraw
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  [ ] inlet inspector to show what are the message types expected by an inlet
      that could read like "int: set left operand; bang: do it"
! [ ] custom buttonbars (including premade objects with args like a [t b f] and such)
!     [ ] with configurable hotkeys
  [ ] colored wires
  [ ] insert_object makes error with multiple selection.
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  [ ] inlet inspector to show what are the message types expected by an inlet
      that could read like "int: set left operand; bang: do it"
! [c] custom buttonbars (including premade objects with args like a [t b f] and such)
!     [c] with configurable hotkeys
  [ ] colored wires
  [ ] insert_object makes error with multiple selection.
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  [ ] [t a] could be a very small GUI object (called "null object")
  [ ] all the [t] could be GUI objects
! [ ] GUI objects for [inlet] and [outlet] and [pd] ([page])
! [ ] subpatcherize selection
  [ ] make a sort of pd-extended, call it DesireData Express or (gasp) Extraordinaire.

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  [ ] [t a] could be a very small GUI object (called "null object")
  [ ] all the [t] could be GUI objects
! [b] GUI objects for [inlet] and [outlet] and [pd] ([page])
  [ ] make a sort of pd-extended, call it DesireData Express or (gasp) Extraordinaire.

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      at least we can reduce the difference between strings and symbols to a minimum.)

! [ ] server-side IEMGUI could be turned into Tcl-based externs OR EVEN become abstractions.
      it's possible to make a DesireData GUI for any Pd class, including abstractions.
      to turn IEMGUI into an abstraction, what's missing is the savefn/saveargs/scanargs business.

! [ ] I would like to know how much it is feasible to compress the t_atom
      structure so that even with 64-bit pointers the t_atom still stays 8 bytes
      instead of 16. I think it's possible, but not necessarily in a
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      at least we can reduce the difference between strings and symbols to a minimum.)

! [b] server-side IEMGUI could be turned into Tcl-based externs OR EVEN become abstractions.
      it's possible to make a DesireData GUI for any Pd class, including abstractions.
      to turn IEMGUI into an abstraction, what's missing is the savefn/saveargs/scanargs business.

! [s] I would like to know how much it is feasible to compress the t_atom
      structure so that even with 64-bit pointers the t_atom still stays 8 bytes
      instead of 16. I think it's possible, but not necessarily in a
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  [c] objectbox history: also store the most recently typed text; see whether ddrc should have a history count entry;
      think about saving history; matju thought that it could be turned into a dynamic button bar that you can drag from.
! [ ] send to front, send to back
! [ ] make windows not get auto-resized to the width of the toolbar, so that people can have tiny windows.
! [ ] <Dossy> fconfigure -encoding binary ...
  [s] implement the stuff that is in iostreams.txt

! [ ] Luke Iannini suggests some OSX bindings:
      Command-` to switch between different windows within the application.
      Command-, to bring up preferences (though this one is more difficult since there are multiple preference windows...)
      Command-m to minimize the window (this currently brings up the "send message" dialogue box)

! [ ] Claude:
      Sending a message to vline~ creates a t_vseg, which are stored in a
      sorted linear linked list, which means the time taken to add each new
      line segment would be O(n), where n is the number of existing line segments.

! [ ] look at some object sync protocols that we can think of: NFS for folders, palm sync for calendars, rsync for file contents

  Marius Schebella:
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  [c] objectbox history: also store the most recently typed text; see whether ddrc should have a history count entry;
      think about saving history; matju thought that it could be turned into a dynamic button bar that you can drag from.
! [?] send to front, send to back
! [c] make windows not get auto-resized to the width of the toolbar, so that people can have tiny windows.
! [c] <Dossy> fconfigure -encoding binary ...
  [s] implement the stuff that is in iostreams.txt

! [c] Luke Iannini suggests some OSX bindings:
      Command-` to switch between different windows within the application.
      Command-, to bring up preferences (though this one is more difficult since there are multiple preference windows...)
      Command-m to minimize the window (this currently brings up the "send message" dialogue box)

! [s] Claude:
      Sending a message to vline~ creates a t_vseg, which are stored in a
      sorted linear linked list, which means the time taken to add each new
      line segment would be O(n), where n is the number of existing line segments.

! [-] look at some object sync protocols that we can think of: NFS for folders, palm sync for calendars, rsync for file contents

  Marius Schebella:
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  Pd from /home/me it will search in /home/me//usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemmatrix ! Is this a feature or a bug of Pd ?" -- Holzi

! "I don't quite understand how this explains why wrap~ of -1 returns 1." -- steffen

! there's a [wrap~] but no [wrap]. there's a [>] but no [>~] (without externals). -- matju

  dmotd about converting patches to postscript:
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  Pd from /home/me it will search in /home/me//usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemmatrix ! Is this a feature or a bug of Pd ?" -- Holzi

! [s] "I don't quite understand how this explains why wrap~ of -1 returns 1." -- steffen

! [s] there's a [wrap~] but no [wrap]. there's a [>] but no [>~] (without externals). -- matju

  dmotd about converting patches to postscript:
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! <arjen> matju, you may be interested in "Jim" - that does have closures and on the Wiki you can find several attempts and experiments regarding closures
! http://wiki.tcl.tk/closures

  <matju> is there something like listbox but which works as a popup menu ?
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! <arjen> matju, you may be interested in "Jim" - that does have closures and on the Wiki you can find several attempts and
!         experiments regarding closures: http://wiki.tcl.tk/closures

  <matju> is there something like listbox but which works as a popup menu ?
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  http://www.tomsawyer.com/gallery/index.php

! to atwood:
! If I had automatic positioning in DesireData, it would be as an option:
! e.g. objects could default to "floating around" (that is, automatic
! positioning), but be pinned down into specific positions.
! In that case, an exception has to be done for [inlet] and [outlet] objects
! mostly. (the DS subsystem should be skipped over as well...)
! I could also have a use for some semi-automatic repositionings: for
! example, there could be a keyboard shortcut to reposition a non-"floating"
! object wherever it would go if it were floating, and if the user doesn't
! want it s/he can Ctrl+z it.

  http://www.graphdrawing.org/
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  http://www.tomsawyer.com/gallery/index.php

! [ ] matju to atwood:
!   If I had automatic positioning in DesireData, it would be as an option: e.g. objects could default to "floating around"
!   (that is, automatic positioning), but be pinned down into specific positions. In that case, an exception has to be done
!   for [inlet] and [outlet] objects mostly. (the DS subsystem should be skipped over as well...) I could also have a use
!   for some semi-automatic repositionings: for example, there could be a keyboard shortcut to reposition a non-"floating"
!   object wherever it would go if it were floating, and if the user doesn't want it s/he can Ctrl+z it.

  http://www.graphdrawing.org/