[PD-dev] Pd on OS X

[Ryan Gallagher]

Hmm...

So it's a Tcl/Tk thing, or a getting Tcl/Tk to work
well with Pd thing?

Honestly at this point I'd rather use Pd (more active
community, developed well and often, seems a bit more
avant guard, etc.) but I'm really only interested in
real-time tweaking...  If there's a chance things
could improve I'll pursue Pd but if that's just the
way Tcl/Tk is on OS X I'll go with jMax also.

Is Tcl slow on the linux platform?  Early jMax and
early Pd were both dog slow on my linux PII 200 last
yearish...

JMax has a nice interface (java anti-aliasing etc.)
and it's actually being developed pretty intensly. 
4.0.0 is looking good.

thanks Adam, Miller et.al,
-ryan

--- Adam Lindsay <atl at comp.lancs.ac.uk> wrote:
> Okay, if you're running such a recent Tcl/Tk, it's
> not the bug I was
> alluding to, and more like what Miller mentioned.
> The current Tcl/Tk's
> are hard to work with because the screen interrupts
> can cause skips in
> the sound buffers.
> 
> It does run pretty well if you do *not* rely on live
> updating numberboxes
> and the like. You can always increase the buffer
> size by one notch, too.
> 
> I've just downloaded jMax, but I haven't had a
> chance to test it. It sure
> looks a lot prettier, though. Sigh.
> 
> adam
> 
> 
> I believe Ryan Gallagher said this around Mon, 11
> Nov 2002:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >Thanks for that tip.
> >
> >I am using 8.4.1 just compiled last week.  The
> audio
> >doesn't stall per se, it's more like values aren't
> >getting updated consistantly so say a pitch sweep
> will
> >"jump" along with the numerical input.
> >
> >A friend told me Pd on osx runs better than jMax. 
> >This hasn't been my experience at all so I thought
> I'd
> >get some feedback from other pd osx users.
> >
> >thanks again,
> >ryan
> >
> >--- Adam Lindsay <atl at comp.lancs.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> If you're running Jaguar and are experiencing a
> >> stalled graphical
> >> interface, do make sure you're running the latest
> >> (8.4.1) Tcl/Tk. The
> >> most recent builds at Sourceforge are nice
> looking
> >> (antialiased text...
> >> which may not help performance). Mac OSX 10.2
> >> introduced some issues with
> >> older versions of Tcl/Tk which have subsequently
> >> been fixed.
> >> 
> >>
>
><http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/tcl/TclTkAqua-8.4.1-Jaguar.dmg?download>
> >> 
> >> Stalled audio input is another matter. I have an
> >> iMac with similar specs,
> >> and it's tricky to get good performance.
> >> 
> >> Best of luck,
> >> adam
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I believe Ryan Gallagher said this around Mon, 11
> >> Nov 2002:
> >> 
> >> >Hi there,
> >> >
> >> >I read that Pd is "(somewhat shakily) running on
> >> >Macintosh OS/X" and decided to give er a try... 
> I
> >> was
> >> >wondering if one of the "shakes" is jumpy
> >> unresponsive
> >> >mouse input?  When clickin on a number object
> and
> >> >moving the mouse up and down, there appears to
> be
> >> >certain freezing and skipping in the interface
> >> (also
> >> >observable in audio output).
> >> >
> >> >Is this the state of affairs or do I have
> something
> >> >mis-configured, I have a G3 400, 512mb ram,
> >> OSX.2.1.
> >> >
> >> >thanks,
> >> >ryan
> >> >
> >>
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