[PD-dev] [arraysize] in PD

guenter geiger geiger at xdv.org
Tue Apr 29 10:41:37 CEST 2003

Is this array tutorial already available ?
I can at least include arraysize in the CVS version if it is really
necessary, for the main distribution Miller has to decide.


On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, David Sabine wrote:

> Hello all,
> I'd like to make a motion that [arraysize] (by Pix) be included in the main
> PD distribution and be considered for inclusion as a "native PD object".
> My reasons:
> 1.  PD lacks this tool and although it is available as an external, I feel
> that this functionality is essential and should be "internal".
> 2.  PD object names like [getsize] and [setsize] are
> misleading...particularly when those reference files refer to "the size of
> an array".  Obviously this matter would be clarified if users were presented
> with [arraysize] also - I'm guessing that PD users would clearly understand
> the different applications for these 'related' objects.
> 2.  I have just finished writing an abstraction entitled "all_about_arrays"
> for PDDP which will be included as a supplement to the PDDP reference files
> regarding [tabread], [tabwrite], [tabsend~], [tabwhatever] etc. To
> demonstrate some of the "usefulness" of arrays (i.e. wave editing,
> concatenating two arrays, slicing and splicing arrays, joining arrays,
> reversing an array, etc.) I have found it necessary to use [arraysize] and I
> would prefer that users not have to download and install an external object
> just to understand these tutorials.  Particularly when determining the
> length of an array is such a standard procedure in high level programming
> environments.
> If anybody has any objections, I'd like to discuss this matter.  Otherwise,
> should Miller make a decision on this?
> I don't know how Pix feels about this, as I have never discussed it with
> him.
> If all developers vote "no", then what is the best method for PDDP to
> include [arraysize] in the reference files?  Should I link to the CVS?
> Should I keep an updated arraysize.dll in the downloadable zip?  Should I
> assume that most users would have the foresight to have already downloaded
> arraysize.dll?
> Regards,
> Dave Sabine
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