[PD-dev] [arraysize] in PD
pix at test.at
Tue Apr 29 12:05:08 CEST 2003
short answer: go crazy.
long answer: generally the merging of externals into pd causes annoying
situations when the externals develop at a different rate to pd (eg,
iemlib in the early days - emphasised by needed parallel patches to pd's
byt arraysize is pretty small, it has atleast a snowballs chance of being
On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 10:41:37 +0200 (CEST)
guenter geiger <geiger at xdv.org> wrote:
> Is this array tutorial already available ?
> I can at least include arraysize in the CVS version if it is really
> necessary, for the main distribution Miller has to decide.
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, David Sabine wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > I'd like to make a motion that [arraysize] (by Pix) be included in the
> > main PD distribution and be considered for inclusion as a "native PD
> > object".
> > My reasons:
> > 1. PD lacks this tool and although it is available as an external, I
> > feel that this functionality is essential and should be "internal".
> > 2. PD object names like [getsize] and [setsize] are
> > misleading...particularly when those reference files refer to "the
> > size of an array". Obviously this matter would be clarified if users
> > were presented with [arraysize] also - I'm guessing that PD users
> > would clearly understand the different applications for these
> > 'related' objects.
> > 2. I have just finished writing an abstraction entitled
> > "all_about_arrays" for PDDP which will be included as a supplement to
> > the PDDP reference files regarding [tabread], [tabwrite], [tabsend~],
> > [tabwhatever] etc. To demonstrate some of the "usefulness" of arrays
> > (i.e. wave editing, concatenating two arrays, slicing and splicing
> > arrays, joining arrays, reversing an array, etc.) I have found it
> > necessary to use [arraysize] and I would prefer that users not have to
> > download and install an external object just to understand these
> > tutorials. Particularly when determining the length of an array is
> > such a standard procedure in high level programming environments.
> > If anybody has any objections, I'd like to discuss this matter.
> > Otherwise, should Miller make a decision on this?
> > I don't know how Pix feels about this, as I have never discussed it
> > with him.
> > If all developers vote "no", then what is the best method for PDDP to
> > include [arraysize] in the reference files? Should I link to the CVS?
> > Should I keep an updated arraysize.dll in the downloadable zip?
> > Should I assume that most users would have the foresight to have
> > already downloaded arraysize.dll?
> > Regards,
> > Dave Sabine
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