[PD-dev] preserving connections of 'bogus' objects

Miller Puckette mpuckett at man104-1.ucsd.edu
Tue Sep 16 18:11:26 CEST 2003


I agree... I'll do this for 0.38... I actually write that feature of
jMax but haven't got around to re-introducing it.

cheers
Miller

On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 11:45:04AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Krzysztof Czaja wrote:
> 
> > What I have in mind, is that during object creation, when the
> > requested class is not known, and there is no matching abstraction, a
> > `failsafe' replacement object is used.  Currently in Pd, it has never
> > any inlets nor outlets, even if loaded from a patch with the original
> > object connected.  (A slightly different case, and apparently easier
> > to deal with, is an already patched up object, edited into a
> > ``couldn't create'' nop by the user.)
> > 
> > Currently in Max, such creatures, called `bogus' objects, do
> > preserve connections.
> 
> This is also a feature of jMax, which draws such objects in lightgray
> instead of white. That this feature is not present is a bit of an
> annoyance. It makes it not very much possible to look at a patch just for
> looking at it, without having the external.
> 
> This would be important to look at example patches for an external that is
> not installed yet, as a preview of what the external would be used and
> such. Well I don't know if many people do that, but sometimes I happen to.
> 
> Another possibly more important problem is when you change an object at
> runtime and make a mistake and then the object loses all its
> inlets/outlets and all associated connections (!). At least now there's
> Ctrl+Z that makes it less of a problem.
> 
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