[PD-dev] no key commands in 0.37/MacOS X

[Adam Lindsay]

Cool. Thanks so much for that analysis.

>>those builds have the following patch applied reverting the change above
>>	http://rutherglen.ics.mq.edu.au/~steffen/tcltk/patches/tk.diff
>>because at present console.tcl is buggy and doesn't add explicit menu 
>>shortcut bindings on the mac which causes basic things like cmd-Q for 
>>quit not to work... console.tcl should be fixable easily by nobody has 
>>gotten around to it yet, see the list archives on what needs to be done.

Looks to me that the patch Daniel refers to here *stopped* being applied
after 8.4.1, but the change to allow explicit bindings still isn't present.

So my guess is that if we're going to tie things up with a nice bow for
users, someone should distribute a patched Tcl/Tk along with Pd/MacOSX.
(a deployment build, once compressed, adds <2MB to a distro)

What do you think, Hans-Christoph?

adam

Hans-Christoph Steiner said this at Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:32:36 -0400:

>
>The minor number is important, the behavoir changes quite a bit between 
>the minor versions.  Here are my results from trying the different 8.4 
>versions.  I also tried Adam's explicit bindings patch.
>
>- 8.4.4: neither Ctrl nor Cmd worked for me.  Adam's patch did not 
>change the behavoir.
>
>- 8.4.2: only Ctrl works for me, but if I leave Pd running for a while, 
>then Ctrl stops working.  I actually had to reboot to get Ctrl working 
>again.  Adam's patch did not change the behavoir.
>
>- 8.4.1: both Ctrl and Cmd work for me. (without Adam's patch).
>
>I tested the various Tcl/Tk installs also with Cecilia, a Tcl frontend 
>to csound.  Cecilia uses explicit bindings (IIRC) and it had similar 
>behavoir.  So it looks like somethings going on with Tcl/Tk > 8.2.1.
>
>.hc
>
>On Wednesday, Sep 17, 2003, at 13:43 America/New_York, Miller Puckette 
>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just tried it (pd 0.37 test 11; tcl 8.4; not sure which minor version
>> number I have) and it worked fine.  not sure where to look next....
>>
>> cheers
>> Miller
>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 12:39:19AM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003, at 19:50 America/New_York, tigital wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 04:25  PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I have noticed in the past few releases of 0.37 (it may have
>>>>> existed before, I just don't remember) that the key commands don't
>>>>> work in MacOS X.  I am currently using pd 0.37-test 11, Tcl/Tk 
>>>>> 8.4.4,
>>>>> and MacOS X 10.2.6.  It doesn't work for me with either Ctrl or
>>>>> Cmd...  and it certainly slows you down when you have to go to that
>>>>> 'Put' menu all of the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone else having this problem?
>>>>
>>>> ...well, ctrl works for me still...and Cmd used to, but hasn't in
>>>> 0.37test versions (maybe it died before that?  I don't remember when 
>>>> I
>>>> first noticed it's loss)...haven't taken the time to investigate,
>>>> unfortunately...
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am in the same state with Tcl/Tk 8.4.2.  IIRC, I think the Cmd code
>>> was in the CVS devel_0-36 version but it doesn't look like it made it
>>> into 0.37 yet.  Or maybe something else changed...
>>>
>>> IIRC
>>>
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