[PD-dev] Re: CVS access

[guenter geiger]

On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2004, Larry Troxler wrote:
>
> > I brought this up a while ago, complaining about people still using
> > hard tabs in source code. [...] but hard tabs are very, very bad,
> > unless you're programming on a C64 and need to conserve floppy space.
>
> You make it seems like it was a completely outdated that only a few rare
> programmers would use, out of nostalgia. However many rather recent (and
> sometimes huge) projects have hard tabs as their only allowed indentation.


(quoting notes.txt):
--------------------------------------------
1.5.  Spacing.  Tabs are 8 spaces; indentation is 4 spaces.  Indenting
curly brackets are by themselves on their own lines, as in:

    if (x)
    {
        x = 0;
    }

Lines should fit within 80 spaces.
-------------------------------------------

So the rules are set. Although IMO it leaves a bit room for
interpretation, but I understand it as using spaces only.

Guenter


>
> > IMO If a programmer insists on using hard tabs, he or she should put a
> > comment at the top of the source file specifying the tab spacing.
>
> There are two usual ways of thinking of hard tabs:
>
> 1. One tab per indentation level. All hard tabs are at the beginning of
> lines: no tabs in the middle. This allows the tabwidth to be customized to
> whatever value without the code looking too weird.
>
> 2. The church of EMACS: hard tabs don't exist in the editor, but they
> are used in files to save space. Tab width is always 8 here.
>
> Frankly I'm more of a (1) guy, and so is (for example) the source code of
> the Linux kernel... but even then, playing around with a lot of different
> projects (many of which CVS'd), one cannot have everything in his own
> indentation style, and in a CVS context it pays more to keep each chunk of
> code in whatever format it's written it.
>
> > I don't know if this is the problem in this case. In the mean time,
> > someone mentioned a switch for CVS to ignore whitespace - I don't
> > remember it this applied to checkin, checkout, or both.  Really,
> > whitespace and newline differences should be none of the version
> > control system's business, but I don't know how Sourceforge is
> > configured by default.
>
> What do you mean that it's none of its business, that it should ignore
> whitespace, or that it should not change from its current behaviour?
> And if the latter, why wouldn't that be a good idea?
>
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