[PD-dev] Re: CVS access

Mathieu Bouchard matju at sympatico.ca
Mon Mar 8 12:35:31 CET 2004


On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, guenter geiger wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
> > > Question 3: The easiest solution would be to have the CVS somewhere else.
> > > The BEST solution would be to have it at Millers place.
> > Any updates on this? when would this be done?
> > I'm also pretty sure that Artengine.CA would be very pleased to host the
> > CVS, but I don't want to make it look like a takeover ;-)
> Well, this is actually the main problem. I have tried hard to make clear
> that the CVS is not trying to split from pd, but it is trying to help
> and coordinate the different improvment efforts.
> The problem is not the bandwith or server space, its a political one, and
> the last thing that I want to happen is that pd gets split.

As long as it's clear, it's fine with me. Hosting is supposed to be first
and foremost a service. I don't mean it as a way of imposing anything,
like deciding who gets a developer account and such. Whoever does the
hosting should be neutral.

Note that although I make impd and am associated with Artengine, and
although people at Artengine are likely to be quite enthusiastic about
impd, Artengine is first a not-for-profit organisation and a hosting
service for artists, and just like they let their artists do pretty much
what they want, they wouldn't interfere with the existing developer team.

I am not suggesting that we should move the CVS to Artengine, only that
it's possible to do so and it wouldn't be bad. However, centralization
sometimes makes things simpler, and so, it would probably be better to
cluster the CVS services with other services, and so IEM.At might be a
better candidate.

The complain I heard the most about SourceForget is that their
anonymous-cvs servers are saturated. That's mostly over these days (I
don't know for how long). The second complain, which is a current one, is
about how they fixed this first problem... they use a delayed mirroring
system, which means I can't interact with anonymous-cvs users the way I'd
do it on another similar system, because there's a delay of several hours
for the mirroring. (I don't know how long exactly; the worst case is at
most 24 hours, but it's often quicker)

Now that I think of it, there's a workaround, which is that everyone who
wants no-delay CVS would get a SourceForget account. There is little
barrier to entry, AFAIK, except that it's annoying, and it inflates
SourceForget's developer count figures =)

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Mathieu Bouchard                       http://artengine.ca/matju





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