[PD-dev] a few questions

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Thu Apr 15 17:49:54 CEST 2004


On Thursday, Apr 15, 2004, at 10:03 America/New_York, Mathieu Bouchard 
wrote:

>
> On Fri, 9 Apr 2004, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>> For me, a some key things don't work with impd, like [tot] IIRC.
>
> Well, impd is currently very much unstable anyway, so when I actually
> decide to make a release, then why not report that [tot] doesn't work 
> and
> actually tell me how to test for the problem and then maybe i'll know 
> what
> to fix.

It would be great to have a bug tracker for this.

>
>>  And if Miller's changes aren't maintained in impd, then there would
>> be a fork.
>
> That's a pretty strange definition of fork. Maybe that's the slashdot
> definition of fork, I mean with the "bad, evil" connotations. To me, a
> branch and a fork are the same thing. Whether there is
> collaboration/osmosis between the branches is a separate issue.

I think most people consider a fork like emacs vs. xemacs.  Any decent 
sized development project has branches ( i.e. stable, release, devel, 
etc.), but not necessarily forks.

> That said, I'm not going to put the burden of merging Miller's/devel's
> changes into impd, as it's already enough job to just get my changes
> working. I mean essentially I am rewriting pretty much all of the gui
> code and it's long enough that I can't afford to further slow myself
> down. Given the interest that impd generates, why wouldn't another
> developer actually handle that task?

Well, we all hope more people step up and work on making Pd better, but 
that doesn't happen as often as we'd like.

>
>>  Already, a bunch of useful stuff has been forgotten in the devel_0_36
>> branch, for whatever reason.
>
> Well, if this is so much of an issue, then why don't you post the
> ChangeLog of the forgotten features ? and then developers would either
> patch devel/impd using old diffs, or reimplement the features in terms 
> of
> the new codebase.

In the world of unlimited time where I did not need to sleep, this 
would have happened already.  Unfortunately, my body fights me when I 
start sleeping less that 5 hours a night.  My guess is that most people 
are probably in this boat also.

.hc

                                     http://at.or.at/hans/


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