[PD-dev] a few questions

Mathieu Bouchard matju at sympatico.ca
Fri Apr 16 19:39:15 CEST 2004


On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> > On Fri, 9 Apr 2004, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> >> For me, a some key things don't work with impd, like [tot] IIRC.
> > Well, impd is currently very much unstable anyway, so when I actually
> > decide to make a release, then why not report that [tot] doesn't work 
> It would be great to have a bug tracker for this.

Maybe, yeah, but I think it's more of a case of impd changing too fast for
the formal reporting process to be worth anything. Bugs are likely to pop
up and disappear on a daily basis... especially because 90% of the gui
code is changing.

> I think most people consider a fork like emacs vs. xemacs.  Any decent 
> sized development project has branches ( i.e. stable, release, devel, 
> etc.), but not necessarily forks.

Okay. Well, apart from the pd/src/[gu]_* files, the code remains 99% the
same, so Miller's/devel's changes still can be ported easily, as they
usually don't involve pd/src/[gu]_* files...

And anyway, if they do, then it's usually easier to implement a GUI
feature in Impd than in Pd, so I don't mind rewriting the code.

(Btw: look at the inlet tooltips in Impd... neater-looking than Pd's, eh?)

> Well, we all hope more people step up and work on making Pd better, but 
> that doesn't happen as often as we'd like.

Well, given that the merging of diffs can happen later, and that the
incentive to do that job will increase as the time goes, I guess I can
simply wait and do my GUI stuff and so increase the incentive for someone
else to do the merging of diffs.

> > Well, if this is so much of an issue, then why don't you post the
> > ChangeLog of the forgotten features ? and then developers would either
> > patch devel/impd using old diffs, or reimplement the features in terms 
> > of the new codebase.
> In the world of unlimited time where I did not need to sleep, this 
> would have happened already.  Unfortunately, my body fights me when I 
> start sleeping less that 5 hours a night.  My guess is that most people 
> are probably in this boat also.

Oh well. So those changes are not _that_ critical, then? So whenever
someone gets the time and incentive, that person digs out that list and we
decide what to do with it on Pd and Impd, 0.37.

I don't have unlimited time either, mind you =)

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