[PD-dev] planning to attempt to upload 0.38 to CVS

[Mathieu Bouchard]

On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Miller Puckette wrote:

> Well, the hook I found in devel includes stdargs.h right into m_pd.h,
> which I think is a serious portability problem (cellphones migth not
> implement stdargs :)

Implementing <stdio.h> requires using <stdarg.h>, so either
cellphones implement <stdarg.h> or nothing runs on it.

Other possibilities are that they'd only implement <varargs.h> instead
(obsolete) or that they have printf() implemented in assembler (obsolete
too). Those are more likely to happen when porting to vintage hardware
using old-fashioned compilers not updated since 1989 or so. It's not the
case for cellphones or even a recent GameBoy-type system.

In short, I don't think it's a valid rationale.

> -- and anyway, it seems like the hook should go _after_ the formatting
> step, not before it.  In my copy right now (too unstable to check into
> anything!) I've got a new low-level function:

Ok, that's another way to do it. Actually I don't really care how it's
done as long as it's sent to the GUI console correctly and that buffer
overflows are handled properly.

>     if (sys_printhook)
>     	(*sys_printhook)(s);
>     else if (sys_printtostderr)
>     	fprintf(stderr, "%s", s);
>     else
>     {
>        (messy code to send it to the GUI layer)
>     }

Actually drop the "messy", and the last "else{}" block altogether. I'm
using a printhook to send to the gui layer. What is the point for the gui
console _not_ to use the printhook? who will use the printhook then?

> I'll release all this once I can decide what I think is the most
> portable way to get the GUI to start Pd up (which seems to be
> necessary if you don't want a "console" window popping up on MSW or
> Mac).  Yuck...

Why yuck? I think it's a feature Pd should have.

On a related note, I also think that commandline options should be
replaced by ";pd"-type messages.

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