[PD-dev] small gizmos

[Josh Steiner]

this sounds amazing.  im not sure what help i can be, but sometime inthe 
nexrt few months (after these two projects im stuck in now end) if i 
find some free time i'd love to help see this to reality as i have like 
9000 projects planned with pic's and pd.  wonderful idea tom!

Tom Schouten wrote:

>hi all,
>
>just polling for reactions.
>
>i noticed 2 things:
>* pd and forth mix very well
>* forth and microcontrollers mix very well
>
>i had this idea of writing a forth for a picmicro, which consists of 2
>linked forths, one running on the host, one on the target. which
>effectively enables you to have a 'shell' on a microcontroller over a
>serial line, or midi, or another bus.
>
>it's not working yet, mostly because i just was too scared to apply power
>to that picmicro circuit, but the start of the idea is on my zwizwa site.
>the design is mostly ready, the implementation sucks and needs to be
>redone.
>
>this forth (badnop) is actually the one that made me write mole, and mole,
>which is no more than a geek toy atm, eventually lead to a better pf.
>it took me a while to get right. once you start writing forths..
>
>now, i was thinking. why not just make mole to be the host forth, choose
>an architecture, and start develloping some standard microcontroller
>protocol for pd, so you could eventually just abstract (a program running
>on) a microcontroller as a pd object.
>
>i'm currently using the picmicro 18f452 as a target chip, which is not
>extremely fast and cheap and all, but has an instruction set that maps
>very well to forth, so i can compile directly to binary code. no need for
>closed source tools etc.. (generated code is peephole-optimized and
>actually works in the simulator :) i'd like to eventually design it that
>the target does not matter, but i'd like to get the rest working first.
>
>now, i know this has a lot of 'forth' in it, but would anyone be remotely
>interested in helping to design/implement it further? it's not too hard
>to actually do, most of it already works except the hardware part, and
>might be pretty useful.
>
>the thing for me to find out is how 'standard' i can make the way to plug
>this into pd. i can go on a solo tour and say 'just use mole', but i'd
>like to somehow take this to a higher level. maybe writing some basic
>library to run on a micro.
>
>any idea would be welcome.
>
>cheers
>tom
>
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