[PD-dev] pd interface questions

Burt brialey at juno.com
Sun Apr 3 20:30:40 CEST 2005

Actually, in my OS X installer I did change quite a few of the help files to *.help (at least the ones in 5.reference).  In fact, it's quite easy to do because there are plenty of scripts out there to take care of removing the prepended "help-", removing the appended ".pd", and appending "-help.pd".

You can find scripts in /Library/Scripts/Finder Scripts.  You can do a batch job to every file that starts with "help-" in a directory.  It makes converting these files really easy.


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Cc: pd-dev at iem.at
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] pd interface questions
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 12:54:24 -0500
To: mike2005 at acc.ocad.on.ca

On Mar 30, 2005, at 1:42 PM, mike2005 at acc.ocad.on.ca wrote:

>> The 0.38.3 version of pd is a much nicer install than the .37 version,
>> especially on OS X because it keeps everything in one place inside a
>> .app file that the end user simply double clicks to launch. The older
>> version throws files all over the place. Thanks to those who did the  
>> work on this.
>> There is a disadvantage to the new version though, in that it isn't  
>> possible to search for pd objects using the standard OS find utility  
>> because it can't search inside of .app files. I can open the .app but  
>> I can't search it. This could be solved by integrating a search  
>> function into pd itself. As a new user it is difficult to find objects  
>> and their documentation without the ability to search.
>> Is this a suggestion worthy of developer attention?

Very much so, and has been a hot topic with developers recently.  Check  
the Pd-dev IRC meeting logs for more info:


>> Also because the "5 Reference" section contains listings which all  
>> start
>> with "help-" you must type at least six characters before you can get  
>> to
>> the point in the menu where you want be. If they were structured like
>> the following it would be easier to get around:
>> acoustics-help.pd
>> Where do I find help-fiddle~.pd? It isn't in the "5 Reference" section  
>> of the help menu where I would expect to find it. In fact I cannot  
>> find any reference to fiddle in any of the help menus, yet I can make  
>> the object and control click to get the help. As a new user I don't  
>> understand the logic of the help menu.

*-help.pd is the new standard.  No one has done the grunt work of  
converting the old help-*.pd files to the new standard...


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