[PD-dev] motex cvs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jun 2, 2005, at 4:08 AM, günter geiger wrote:

>
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Tim Blechmann wrote:
>> pd's sound file player is quite buggy and not really intuitive to use,
>> there are iem's mp3 player, possibly an ogg player ... and readanysf,
>> that iirc has some problems with the recent flext ...
>
> I am not sure if pd needs to play all these compressed formats.
> I never had problems converting the files in a proper, easy to read
> format like wav or aiff, saving tons of CPU time for more useful tasks.
>
> I do agree that the pd builtin player is awkward to use and misses
> features like speed change, which makes it pretty useless for all but
> trivial playback.

Having a sound file player that plays any format makes Pd more  
flexible, leading to more new and unexpected uses.   This is the  
strength of Pd: as few presumptions as possible.  If you wanted to  
build a mp3 jukebox using Pd, for example, you'd need to play mp3s  
within Pd.

.hc


>>
>> maybe it's just another stupid idea, that will be discussed once and
>> never realized (like the marketplace / bounty system),
>
> We just couldn't agree on the bounty system. I was against it and in
> favour of forming a non-profit organization. I wouldn't step back from
> my opinion without seeing a proposal for a proper model of the bounty
> system. Obviously copying the Gnome bounty thing can't possibly work,
> and we do not even have the information about how they do it  
> internally.
>
> Who takes the decisions ?
> How can we assure that this will be fair ?
> Who decides what gets implemented, how ?
>
> So this is the problem. Someone would have to really think about it,
> which means a lot of work, just as the formation of an organization, or
> just like the setup of the CVS.
> I wouldn't volunteer for such a task anymore, you are free to do so.
> Just get a critical amount of developers on your side and make sure
> the others don't run away completely.
>
> Guenter
>
>> but what about a plugin api for pd?
>> the readsf/writesf players could be improved (maybe similarly written  
>> to
>> thomas's sfplay) and an api could be designed that makes it possible  
>> to
>> support all kinds of audio formats ... mp3, ogg, flac, speex,
>> libsndfile, whatever you want ...
>> this api could also be used for the soundfiler ...
>>
>> just a stupid idea to save some work ... but it will only work if
>> several developers _cooperate_ which will be the mayor problem :-(
>>
>> just my 2¢ ... tim
>>
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>>
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>>
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