collective decision making WAS: Re: [PD-dev] motex cvs

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jun 2, 2005, at 4:08 AM, günter geiger wrote:

>
> On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Tim Blechmann wrote:
>>
>> maybe it's just another stupid idea, that will be discussed once and
>> never realized (like the marketplace / bounty system),
>
> We just couldn't agree on the bounty system. I was against it and in
> favour of forming a non-profit organization. I wouldn't step back from
> my opinion without seeing a proposal for a proper model of the bounty
> system. Obviously copying the Gnome bounty thing can't possibly work,
> and we do not even have the information about how they do it  
> internally.
>
> Who takes the decisions ?
> How can we assure that this will be fair ?
> Who decides what gets implemented, how ?
>
> So this is the problem. Someone would have to really think about it,
> which means a lot of work, just as the formation of an organization, or
> just like the setup of the CVS.
> I wouldn't volunteer for such a task anymore, you are free to do so.
> Just get a critical amount of developers on your side and make sure
> the others don't run away completely.

The key here before we can make any decisions at all, we need to come  
up with a method of making decisions.  I think the Debian model makes a  
lot of sense: one developer, one vote.  We could just adopt a lot of  
the Debian model directly, since its tried-n-true and well developed.

How to become an official developer:
http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-step1

Debian Voting Info:
http://www.debian.org/vote/


A non-profit organization takes A LOT of work to set up, I've been thru  
it, as well as money to pay lawyers.  And that's just for a U.S.  
non-profit, an international NGO could easily be much more work to set  
up.  I am not at all opposed to doing it, I just think it doesn't make  
much sense right now.  I think the way to go would be first set up an  
organization, then eventually make it a legal entity.  Plus there are  
many decisions that will need to be made when setting up the NGO, so  
first, we need a mechanism for making decisions.

.hc


>
> Guenter
>
>> but what about a plugin api for pd?
>> the readsf/writesf players could be improved (maybe similarly written  
>> to
>> thomas's sfplay) and an api could be designed that makes it possible  
>> to
>> support all kinds of audio formats ... mp3, ogg, flac, speex,
>> libsndfile, whatever you want ...
>> this api could also be used for the soundfiler ...
>>
>> just a stupid idea to save some work ... but it will only work if
>> several developers _cooperate_ which will be the mayor problem :-(
>>
>> just my 2¢ ... tim
>>
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