[PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Dec 16, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Tim Blechmann wrote:

>>>>> Staying in sync sounds good to me.  But I think that since
>>>>> portaudio/portmidi are not stable APIs and still alpha/beta code,
>>>>> we should maintain a copy in CVS.
>>>
>>> what? the portaudio api's 1 and 2 are perfectly defined, there is
>>> absolute no need to keep a copy ...
>>
>> That is far from the only reason to keep a copy in
>
> and i stated my arguments ...
>
> this discussion won't have a solution ... do whatever you want with
> miller's pd ... i don't care if you check in the latest pa12
> release or whatever ... pd has bigger problems, than the placement of
> external sources ...
>
> just keep all external sources out of devel ...

This is exactly the reason why I am unwilling to work on pd-devel.  I  
have spent far too long on build systems and creating cross-platform  
packages that actually work.  I have yet to see a downloadable binary  
that works for pd-devel since I stopped doing it at devel_0_37.  I have  
zero interest in applying my knowledge when all I get in return is  
hostility. But its all free software, so feel free to do so yourself.

The bottom line is that the Pd source code is messy, we all know that.   
And we have to live with it.  Its a big project, there are dozens of  
developers, so change is inevitably slow.  But personally I think that  
getting our code out to people who want to use it is actually very  
important, and I am willing to compromise in other things in order to  
achieve that.

.hc


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