[PD-dev] Re: rh/ccrma pd-extended rpm

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I am cc'ing the list since I think this is of general interest.

I have talked with Nando about it, his reason for not doing it is  
lack of time.  There are no license issues with Pd-extended that  
would be a problem with RedHat or PlanetCCRMA.  The whole Pd-extended  
is licensed under the GNU GPL. In fact, we are limited to only BSD  
and GPL code in Pd-extended, while with PlanetCCRMA, they can ignore  
a lot of license issues because they have Stanford's lawyers behind  
them.  They include software with all sorts of non-free licenses, and  
even include patented code that would be illegal to use in the US  
without a specific license.

The plan with the pdlab farm of computers is to have the nightly  
builds posted automatically so they can be downloaded.  Ideally, the  
packages would ultimately be included in the respective OSes.

As for how to support RedHat/PlanetCCRMA, I'll leave that totally up  
to you, I don't use either, so I don't know what makes sense for  
them.  But feel free to ask any questions, etc. about Pd-extended.   
Also, there is a lot that can be improved in the Pd-extended build  
system, so if you feel motivated to improve things, go for it.  The  
hard part is that it has to work on all platforms.

.hc

On Jun 16, 2006, at 9:20 PM, shift8 wrote:

> cool - there will most likely be other dependencies for pd-extened  
> on a
> stock fedora/redhat/planetccrm install (non-standard builds,  that  
> have
> never made it to rpm, license issues, etc - there's must be some  
> logical
> reason Fernando doesn't already make one), so i think it's still not
> going to be drop in for ccrma users.  i'll start with their spec file
> and go from there.  perhaps you can host non-standard rpms w/ it after
> they get built?
>
> On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 20:11 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> That would be awesome!  It would be great if someone updated the
>> PlanetCCRMA rpms to be built with Pd-extended.  Right now the
>> PlanetCCRMA stuff is quite old.
>>
>> Once everything is set up, I don't think it'll take much
>> maintenance.  So I'll just do a plain install of RedHat and/or
>> PlanetCCRMA and hand it over to you.  I don't really know RedHat
>> anymore.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2006, at 5:44 PM, shift8 wrote:
>>
>>> hi - i've scripted systems to auto build from cvs to rpm - and can
>>> offer
>>> a couple of hours a week or so if you are interested.
>>>
>>> star
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 17:22 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>> So I have a bunch of old PCs, a fat internet connection, and some
>>>> room to set up some boxes.  My plan is to set up machines that are
>>>> devoted to auto-building Pd, one machine for each platform.   
>>>> This is
>>>> what I can provide: Mac OS X 10.3.9, Debian/x86, Debian/PowerPC,  
>>>> and
>>>> Win2k.
>>>>
>>>> I have more PCs and I could do installed of PlanetCCRMA, RedHat,
>>>> SUSE, whatever if someone would build that machine up to auto-
>>>> build Pd.
>>>>
>>>> The idea here is to have each of these machines do a complete build
>>>> of Pd every night, and report problems to the pd-dev list.  Then
>>>> we'll no longer need to make test releases, they'll be there
>>>> automatically.
>>>>
>>>> Any help with this would be appreciated.  I can give root access to
>>>> those who will do the work.
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
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