[PD-dev] displaying when an arg has been overridden

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Jun 25, 2006, at 5:43 AM, Tim Blechmann wrote:

> On Sat, 2006-06-24 at 14:51 -0700, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> I suppose it would be possible if the DD devs started
>> submitted patches to the patch tracker.  Miller accepts the majority
>> of them these days.
>
> i admire you enthusiasm, but from my own experience, i must state,  
> that
> the pd development process is not as interactive as you describe ...
> the biggest problem is that no one knows, if a patch will apply to
> future versions of pd ... i did a lot of porting of patches from  
> 0.38 to
> 0.39, and i definitely don't want to go through this process again ...
>
>> So there has been much talk over the years about doing this, I think
>> there needs to be more action.  Any volunteers?
>
> well, i guess, the volunteers are there and they took action ... but
> they don't work on miller's branch ...
> matju and chun did quite some work on desire data, forking from  
> miller's
> pd, and i'm writing my own engine, which will be combined with  
> christian
> klippel's gui 'karma' ...
> while pnpd/karma is rewritten from scratch and thus wouldn't be
> interesting for the future of the pd development, i guess, that the
> desire data developers doubt that their code would be included into
> miller's pd ... (this is somehow understandable, as it's not only a 5
> lines patch)
> i was following this discussion with great interest, but i'm still
> remembering guenter's tool tips patch, that where written for 0.38 and
> ported to 0.39 ... they are not a big patch, but it never made it into
> miller's pd ...

> imo, the problem of pd's development is not the lack of ideas, but the
> lack of collaboration ...

I'll second that.  There is a lot of good development going on in  
Miller's Pd, pd-devel, and desire-data,  too bad it can't be all in  
the same package.  But yes, porting patches is not a fun way to spend  
time.

.hc

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