[PD-dev] Re: [PD] building HID from the CVS, errors
Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans at eds.org
Wed Aug 9 22:16:21 CEST 2006
Considering that its now building nightly automatically on numerous
platforms, and I've largely single-handedly converted most of the
libraries in CVS to build in libdir format, I don't think the Pd-
extended build system has proven hard to maintain. I do sleep, and
actually have a life outside of the Pd-extended build system...
sometimes... ;)
In fact, its much better than anything that existed before. That is
not to say there isn't a lot that could be improved. config.h!!
.hc
On Aug 9, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Thomas Grill wrote:
> Hi all,
> agreed. Personally, I rarely use the extended distro since i only
> need a few externals or library, and i don't like to be dependent
> on a large and probably hard to maintain build system.
> I advocate simple Makefile files that are self-consistent and
> Makefile.extended or whatever for Hans' GUBS.
> greetings,
> Thomas
>
> IOhannes m zmoelnig schrieb:
>> David Merrill wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>
>> hi.
>> i am redirecting this to pd-dev, since i hope this mail will lead
>> to some further dev-specific discussion and hopefully to some
>> usable build system.
>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone else had a problem trying to compile an external from
>>> the CVS source? I just checked out the externals dir from CVS,
>>> and wanted to compile the latest [hid], so after reading the
>>> README in the hid directory, I typed:
>>>
>>> >make INCLUDE=/usr/lib/pd/src PDEXECUTABLE=/usr/bin/pd
>>>
>>> ..and got the following:
>>>
>>> --paste--
>> [...]
>>> --end paste--
>>>
>>> Why would the build want a /sigpack, and /zexy directory? And am
>>> I missing a Makefile.buildlayout file?
>>
>> to compile hid (and i guess, any of hans's externals) you need the
>> entire pd-cvs (at the very least you need the "packages" module)
>> downloaded from sourceforge.
>> i agree that this is _very annoying_ at the least.
>>
>> my solution to compile something as simple as [folder_list] was to
>> NOT use hcs's build system at all (i really just wanted to have to
>> download not more than 1MB to get this single object), but instead
>> compile the object with:
>> > gcc -g -O2 -I. -DPD -fPIC -export_dynamic -shared -o
>> folder_list.o -c folder_list.c
>> > gcc -export_dynamic -shared -o folder_list.pd_linux
>> folder_list.o -lm -lc
>>
>> you might try something similar with hid, although things are a
>> bit more complicated here.
>>
>> that's basically the answer to your question, the rest is what i
>> draw as a conclusion:
>>
>> SO:
>>
>> i see the need for a "grand unified build system" for things like
>> pd-extended. but i am not totally sure, whether everything should
>> be sacrificed to pd-extended.
>> naturally, hans has the right to do anything with his code,
>> including forcing anyone trying to build the sources from his part
>> of the repository with any build system he likes.
>> nevertheless, i would recommend a system that would make the best
>> of the two worlds: be able to take advantage of the general pd-
>> extended build system and (at the users option) be able to not
>> have to use the pd-extended build system (probably at the cost of
>> having to do some manual configuration if the maintainer doesn't
>> want to maintain to configuration systems)
>>
>> the simplest solution that comes to my mind is, that one of the 2
>> systems uses a differently named makefile.
>> since pd-extended's build-system is more likely to be called from
>> a parent makefile (because somebody wants to build the entire pd-
>> extended build-system), i suggest to name this Makefile.extended
>> (or Makefile.buildsystem)
>> anybody wishing to build using the extended build system, would
>> call "make -f Makefile.extended".
>> other users would just do a "make".
>>
>> a more sophisticated method would use a Makefile.extended and a
>> Makefile.simple.
>> the ordinary "Makefile" would first check for the existence of the
>> extended build-system and if present, it would use
>> Makefile.extended, else it would use Makefile.simple.
>>
>> if test -e ../../packages/Makefile.buildlayout
>> then
>> # cool, we can use the extended build system
>> make -f Makefile.extended
>> else
>> # simple fallback
>> make -f Makefile.simple
>> fi
>>
>> what do you think?
>>
>>
>> mfg.adsr
>> IOhannes
>>
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