[PD-dev] moving iemgui from core to extra

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Dec 15, 2006, at 1:54 PM, carmen wrote:

>> If we are going to have full-fledged namespaces, than this is an  
>> essential step.  Think C without any #includes or Java without any  
>> #imports.  Only the bare minimum is
>> in the language itself.  Everything else is a library.
>
> in Python 2.5, Tk is still a configure-time option, which means,  
> TkInter isnt shipped as a seperate library (Even TCL ships Tk  
> seperately). likewise, the JVM from sun includes a GUI as well. the  
> Squeak VM includes a gui, debugger, source code editor, etc.
>
> these GUIs may be shipped as nonoptional parts of the core, but  
> presambly they do have their own namespace and installation  
> directory on disk - does this mean we'll be cerating [iemgui/ 
> numbox2]'s in patches soon (or [declare import iemgui] or whatever)?
>
> my question would be... what do you get out of this change. other  
> than make people's patches slightly harder to build, and have to  
> worry about getting your changes incorporated into miller's version  
> or continually move around files every version bump..
>
> i guess the prefs dialog has a setting for default library imports?

If those files are then included in the "extra" folder in the pd- 
vanilla, then there would be no change in how you use it.  Pd would  
just load the file when requested, instead of at startup.

On Pd-extended those files would be stuck into a libdir.  If you use  
the prefs file that is included in all of the Pd-extended packages,  
then this change would be completely transparent, you would do  
everything the same.  Otherwise, the [import], [declare] stuff would  
need to be used.

Then it would mean that Pd would only load the code that you are  
actually using.  That means you can completely ignore any bugs, etc  
in code that you are not using.

This also means that there would be very few reserved words in Pd.   
Classes compiled into the core are basically reserved words, you  
can't use them in any other way.

.hc


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