[PD-dev] text placement

Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip at gmail.com
Wed Jan 10 15:55:38 CET 2007


I agree that Lucida Grand is good.  Keep up the good work on this, Pd
craves beauty.

~Kyle

On 1/10/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks much.  I'll take a look.  But now after fiddling with
> different fonts, it seems that its the fonts themselves that have
> different placement.  Bitstream Vera Sans Mono seems to be too high
> up.  Lucida Grande looks much better:
>
> http://bam.idmi.poly.edu/~hans/pdfonts/
>
> Since I am on the topic, I thought I'd post about what I did to get
> the same size boxes on each platform.  It's pretty simple actually, I
> just hardcoded the values, eliminating all the Tcl/Tk and Pd that
> tries to guess the box size based on font measurements.  Basically,
> the Courier font that is provided on each platform is not the same
> font at all.  They are all different heights and widths.  So the way
> around this is to use the exact same font on each platform.  That's
> why I choose Bitstream Vera Sans Mono.  It is available under a BSD-
> ish license and works on all platforms.  I originally thought that a
> mono-spaced font was necessary, but after seeing Lucida Grande, I
> think a proportional font works nicely.
>
> .hc
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2007, at 2:49 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
>
> > In g_rtext.c:
> >
> >         sys_vgui("pdtk_text_new .x%lx.c %s %f %f {%.*s} %d %s\n",
> >             canvas, x->x_tag,
> >             dispx + LMARGIN, dispy + TMARGIN,
> >             outchars, tempbuf, sys_hostfontsize(font),
> >             (glist_isselected(x->x_glist,
> >                 &x->x_glist->gl_gobj)? "blue" : "black"));
> >
> > places the text, and the border gets drawn in the text_drawborder()
> > function.  I couldn't spot anything platform-dependent in the code,
> > although I've noticed that drawing comes out differently on Mac
> > compared
> > to other platforms - create a slider, for instance and look at the
> > bar.
> > I believe Pd corrects for that when drawing inlets/outlet on objects,
> > but I don't think there's anywhere else.
> >
> > cheers
> > Miller
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 01:20:49PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Can anyone point me to where the text is placed on the canvas in
> >> relation to the object and message boxes?  It seems to vary depending
> >> on platform and I'd like to troubleshoot it.
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
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