excellent solution! how to make this happen? trunk/abstractions/pdmtl/ (already there, but very old) to sync with : *svn co https://devel.goto10.org/svn/pdmtl/trunk/pdmtl <https://devel.goto10.org/svn/pdmtl/trunk> *of course, i can ask alexandre quessy if you are too busy (alex have a developer account on pd-svn i think). pat