[PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1917574 ] declare not working on osx

Thu Mar 20 14:38:27 CET 2008

Bugs item #1917574, was opened at 2008-03-18 01:01
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Submitted By: marius schebella (mariusschebella)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: declare not working on osx

Initial Comment:
I am not sure if declare is working the way it is supposed to on OSX
the object I am trying to create is [OSCroute].
I can create [oscx/OSCroute], but what I want to accomplish is to avoid the oscx prefix, so I tried
[declare -stdpath extra/oscx]
[declare -stdpath oscx]
[declare -path extra/oscx]
[declare -path oscx]
[declare -stdlib extra/oscx]
[declare -stdlib oscx]
[declare -lib extra/oscx]
[declare -lib oscx]
I even tried [declare -stdpath extra/oscx] in combination with import oscx. and I get a console printout saying [import] loaded library: oscx,
but OSCroute
... couldn't create 
don't know how to track down the error, or if I am maybe doing something wrong.
pd-extended-0.40.3-20080222.

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Comment By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent)
Date: 2008-03-20 13:38

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oops...

from some quick fix from before i accidently still had a symbolic link
from /home/roman/extra pointing to /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/, that is why it
found [bar] in that funny place:

/home/roman/extra/foo/bar.pd

tried again without the symlink:
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tried /home/roman/declare_test.pd and succeeded
tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar.pd and failed
tried /home/roman/bar.pd and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pd and failed
tried /home/roman/../extra/foo/bar.pat and failed
tried /home/roman/bar.pat and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pat and failed

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Comment By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent)
Date: 2008-03-20 11:49

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i just did the same test again on my box, ubuntu dapper i686:

tried /home/roman/declare_test.pd and succeeded
tried /home/roman/extra/foo/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/extra/foo/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/extra/foo/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/roman/extra/foo/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/roman/extra/foo/bar.pd and succeeded

which means:
- there is a difference between linux ppc and linux intel
- currently linux intel is the _only_ platform where [declare] works as
documented.

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Comment By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent)
Date: 2008-03-20 11:20

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could we give this issue a higher priority? the longer [declare] is not
working correctly, the more confusion it will cause. also it currently
cannot be used to create portable patches, that work on every platform with
every pd-distro, which i find would be the strong point in using
[declare].

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Comment By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent)
Date: 2008-03-20 11:11

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the same test on a ubuntu ppc machine with pd 0.41-4 compiled from source
and installed to the default location gave similar results:

output from pd-window:
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tried /home/olivia/declare_test.pd and succeeded
tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/olivia/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/olivia/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/olivia/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/olivia/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar/bar.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar.pd and failed
tried /home/olivia/bar.pd and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pd and failed
tried /home/olivia/extra/foo/bar.pat and failed
tried /home/olivia/bar.pat and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/bar.pat and failed
 bar
... couldn't create

instantiating [foo/bar] works fine, which means, that installation of
[bar] is correct and pd finds it in extra/foo.

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Comment By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent)
Date: 2008-03-20 10:48

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while [declare -stdlib] seems to work, [declare -stdpath] doesn't work on
windows as well. i created a folder 'foo' into the extra directory and put
a file 'bar.pd' in there.

my test setup:
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pd installation path:
D:\programme\pd-0.41\

pd executable:
D:\programme\pd-0.41\bin\pd.exe

test-abstraction:
D:\programme\pd-0.41\extra\foo\bar.pd

test-patch:
D:\home\declare_test.pd

test-patch contains:

[declare -stdpath extra/foo]

[bar]

pd start command:
D:\programme\pd-0.41\bin\pd.exe -verbose -open D:\home\declare_test.pd

output from pd-window:
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tried D:\\home\\declare_test.pd and succeeded
tried D:\\home\\..\\extra\\foo\\bar.m_i386 and failed
tried D:\\home\\bar.m_i386 and failed
tried D:\\programme\\pd-0.41\\extra\\bar.m_i386 and failed
tried D:\\home\\..\\extra\\foo\\bar.dll and failed
tried D:\\home\\bar.dll and failed
tried D:\\programme\\pd-0.41\\extra\\bar.dll and failed
tried D:\\home\\..\\extra\\foo\\bar\\bar.m_i386 and failed
tried D:\\home\\bar\\bar.m_i386 and failed
tried D:\\programme\\pd-0.41\\extra\\bar\\bar.m_i386 and failed
tried D:\\home\\..\\extra\\foo\\bar\\bar.dll and failed
tried D:\\home\\bar\\bar.dll and failed
tried D:\\programme\\pd-0.41\\extra\\bar\\bar.dll and failed
tried D:\\home\\..\\extra\\foo\\bar.pd and failed
tried D:\\home\\bar.pd and failed
tried D:\\programme\\pd-0.41\\extra\\bar.pd and failed
tried D:\\home\\..\\extra\\foo\\bar.pat and failed
tried D:\\home\\bar.pat and failed
tried D:\\programme\\pd-0.41\\extra\\bar.pat and failed
 bar
... couldn't create

it looks like [declare -stdpath] is adding the search path relative to the
patch instead of relative to pd.

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