[PD-dev] pdmtl abstractions breaking builds

Luke Iannini (pd) lukexipd at gmail.com
Sun Mar 23 04:12:05 CET 2008 

Hi Hans,

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>
>  Just having a link in the pure-data SVN to the pdmtl abstractions
>  isn't really useful from my experience. I think it would be more
>  useful to import pdmtl releases into the pure-data SVN.  But it seems
>  that there aren't any pdmtl releases.
>
>  By just importing the latest pdmtl abstractions into Pd-extended, I
>  think that will cause more problems that in solves.  I think it makes
>  more sense to work out the details of a user-managed externals
>  installation location, then the users can manage pdmtl there using
>  SVN or whatever.
>

Sure, I agree that Pd-e should have stable versions of whatever's
included.  I thought part of the appeal of the autobuilds, though, is
that libraries can be tested in the context of the distribution before
a release.

Anyway, a good compromise would be for the PdMTL crew to create a
release branch on their side, and I'll switch the external definition
in Pd-SVN to mirror that.  Then, when they are comfortable with the
state of their trunk they can merge it in, and that way Pd-SVN won't
be affected by the fluctuations of the bleeding edge.  Would that be
preferable?

(also, I removed pdmtl from the builds while we sort this out so the
autobuilds resume)

>  On Mac OS X since 0.39.3-extended, /Library/Pd is a such a location.
>  Just put your code there and it is in the default path for objects
>  and help files.  We just need to pick standard locations for GNU/
>  Linux and Windows, then add it to default preferences, then I think
>  that will be the best solution for managing pdmtl with Pd-extended.
>
>  This really the direction that Pd-extended should be going on.  Only
>  really stable things should be included, other things should be
>  managed outside.  Ideally we'd have some kind of apt-get for Pd.
>
I'm all for this, and if I find myself with some free time I'll see if
I can contribute to its realization.

Cheers
Luke

>  .hc
>
>
>
>
>  On Mar 22, 2008, at 12:56 PM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:
>
>  > Hi Hans,
>  > Hm, that's odd, a weird PATH issue perhaps?  I tested it thoroughly
>  > this time : ), and it works fine on both of my machines; "command not
>  > found" is I guess a shell error (at first I thought maybe the "export"
>  > command was a newer addition to SVN, but it seems to have been there
>  > from the start anyway).
>  >
>  > Exporting is definitely a good idea, since the .svn/ dirs add about
>  > 30megs of unnecessary overhead.
>  >
>  > So, either we can try to fix the path issue, or I can try to replicate
>  > "svn export" using "find"?
>  > Cheers
>  > Luke
>  >
>  >
>  > On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
>  > <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>  >>
>  >>  The pdmtl abstractions are having some issues with 'svn'.  I can
>  >>  guarantee that 'svn' is installed, since that is what is used to get
>  >>  the source code every day.
>  >>
>  >>  .hc
>  >>
>  >>> Message: 17
>  >>> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:38:59 -0400 (EDT)
>  >>> From: pd at debian-stable-powerpc.idmi.poly.edu (pd)
>  >>> Subject: [PD-cvs] autobuild: pd-extended debian-stable-powerpc
>  >>>       2008-03-22      06.29.26
>  >>> To: pd-cvs at iem.at
>  >>> Message-ID:
>  >>>       <20080322103900.366862B2CE at debian-stable-
>  >>> powerpc.idmi.poly.edu>
>  >>>
>  >>> install -d /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/
>  >>> build//usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pddp
>  >>> install -p /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/abstractions/pddp/
>  >>> dsp.pd /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/abstractions/pddp/open.pd /
>  >>> home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/abstractions/pddp/+pager.pd /home/pd/
>  >>> auto-build/pd-extended/abstractions/pddp/parse_meta.pd /home/pd/
>  >>> auto-build/pd-extended/abstractions/pddp/print_long.pd /home/pd/
>  >>> auto-build/pd-extended/abstractions/pddp/print.pd  /home/pd/auto-
>  >>> build/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/local/lib/pd/extra/
>  >>> pddp
>  >>> /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/scripts/generate-libdir-
>  >>> metafile.sh /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/
>  >>> build//usr/local/lib/pd/extra pddp \
>  >>>               --license "GNU GPL" \
>  >>>               --description "support objects for the Pure Data
>  >>> Documentation
>  >>> Project"
>  >>> install -d /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/
>  >>> build//usr/local/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pddp
>  >>> install -p /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/abstractions/pddp/*-
>  >>> help.pd \
>  >>>               /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/
>  >>> build//usr/
>  >>> local/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/pddp
>  >>> install -d /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/
>  >>> build//usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pdmtl
>  >>> svn export --force /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/abstractions/
>  >>> pdmtl \
>  >>>               /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/
>  >>> build//usr/
>  >>> local/lib/pd/extra/pdmtl
>  >>> make[2]: svn: Command not found
>  >>> make[2]: *** [pdmtl_install] Error 127
>  >>> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/
>  >>> abstractions'
>  >>> make[1]: *** [abstractions_install] Error 2
>  >>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/
>  >>> packages'
>  >>> make: *** [install] Error 2
>  >>> upload specs linux_make . deb
>  >>> Uploading /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/./
>  >>> Pd*.deb
>  >>> ls: /home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/./Pd*.deb:
>  >>> No such file or directory
>  >>>
>  >>>
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