[PD-dev] pd-devel revival

chun at goto10.org chun at goto10.org
Mon Dec 8 19:33:19 CET 2008

Hi all:

> Hi all,
> I've spent some time thinking about this.  I had only limited success
> pulling
> code from the 0.39 "devel" because there were so many changes, often with
> rationales I didn't fully understand, that I wasn't confident about my
> ability to maintain whatever I ended up with.  However, I did manage to
> fold some of it back into 'vanilla'.
> On the other hand, u_main.tk is such a mess that I don't think of it in
> the same way as the rest of the Pd code at all - I'm much more willing to
> take "patches" on it even if I don't understand them :)

thanks for your reply and letting us know what you think. We planed to
make incremental changes anyway, so it should work quite well with making
patches for vanilla.

> A couple of details.  First, I'm at work myself making a
> desire-data-inspired
> rewrite of all the dialog windows... maybe you shouldn't lose time on that
> till I have a chance to hack at it.  I'm also planning rather soon to add
> a new text-editor-window feature.
> Second, and this just occurred to me, I think it would be smart to
> separate
> the u_main.tk cide into several smaller files.  They could simply be
> concatenated by the makefile.  This way people could work on different
> parts of it with much less chance of their work colliding.  I should have
> thought of this simple strategy years ago, hmm.

hehe, am glad to hear that desiredata has some influence on people other
then the ones involved with it;)

Are those features close to be finished? if so, we could wait a bit till
then and use the new release as our starting point. Breaking down
u_main.tk sounds like a good idea. Perhaps we could discuss on the
possible ways to do it so we can experiment a little while the new
features are being completed. what do you think?



> cheers
> Miller
> On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 05:32:59PM +0100, chun at goto10.org wrote:
>> Hi all:
>> Hope you are all well:)
>> Some of us have been toying with the idea of working on the gui code
>> (u_main.tk/pd.tk only, leaving the C code untouched) of Pd for a little
>> while now. Starting with refactoring it and gradually adds new stuff in,
>> and hopefully the changes will work its way to pd-vanilla.
>> For this reason, we would like to revive the good old pd-devel as the
>> working branch. as it would seem fitting to do so instead of making a
>> new
>> branch with a new name.
>> So i guess this mail will act as the announcement for this new effort,
>> as
>> well as a discussion starter for many of us who would like to talk about
>> the surrounding issues. and perhaps we could also revive the semi
>> regular
>> dev meetings we had on #dataflow too;)
>> cheers
>> chun
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