[PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Tue Feb 17 19:33:30 CET 2009

On Feb 16, 2009, at 10:49 PM, ydegoyon at free.fr wrote:

> ola,
>>> To be clear, the libraries will all still be included in the  
>>> package,  they
> just won't be loaded by default.  That means you'll have load  them  
> as part of
> the patch using either [declare] or [import], or using  namespace  
> prefixes like
> [cyclone/prepend].  This puts us further  towards the goal of having  
> all of the
> patch settings stored in the  patch itself, making it more likely to  
> work on
> more computers.
> computers? we speak of toasters here...
> i'm really annoyed that you speak from you dev point of view
> and don't see how many people will ask themselves :
> where the heck is that object??
> not even having a chance to discover it by accident...
> and accidents make the greatest stories...
> more seriously, in your 'scientific' language,
> it's just sucks... ( that's real science )
> and you don't explain why you turned unauthorized into a lib,
> there was absolutely no reason for that
> and also i see no progress in pd since 2 years,
> until it will get a real threaded gui
> and soundfile loader ( patches i did in 2002 ),
> well hey? i totally disagree with darwin,
> evolution is bad

If the language is an impediment, I would love to hear suggestions for  
how to improve it.  The last thing I want to do if force Pd into the  
land of computer science. "namespace" seems like a pretty clear name  
to me, but I am not married to it.


> xiaoo,
> sevy
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