[PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at eds.org
Wed Feb 18 18:35:30 CET 2009

On Feb 18, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Martin Peach wrote:

> IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>> Frank Barknecht wrote:
>>> Hallo,
>>> IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>>>> they could, but it was an effort to do so.
>>>> any "ordinary" external would not be able to do it.
>>> So am I understanding it correctly, that Zexy's [pack] is not doing
>>> the fuddling Cyclone does and now suddenly became an object that
>>> overwrites internals by changes in Pd 0.42?
>> exactement!
>> because i didn't do any fudlling (well knowing that zexy's [pack]  
>> is not
>> ready to replace Pd's [pack]; but stating the intention to become so
>> LATER by using class_new("pack") - thinking that this was a safe  
>> thing
>> to do), i was shocked that suddenly my pack would be used instead  
>> of the
>> vanilla one.
> I guess it never occurred to any of you to use objects with different
> names...
> Or else why not just call every pd object "object" and then use  
> paths to
> access them, like [pd/some/library/subdirectory/object]?
> Just kidding in a frustrated sort of way.

Different names are a good idea, for sure.  But Pd should also not go  
down in flames if someone happens to create an object with a name that  
is already used somewhere.  Its not possible to know every single  
object that has ever been made.

I just ran into this myself trying to create an abstraction called  
"beat".  Apparently, there is already a [beat], so I got unexpected  


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