[PD-dev] packaging loaders for Debian

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Sep 6, 2010, at 3:11 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

> On 2010-09-05 05:47, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>> I think it would be very useful to package up some of the handy  
>> loaders
>> for Debian.  I for one am planning on making a package for the libdir
>> loader.  The big question is how to package them.  Should they be
>> packaged up like a normal library?  It would be nice if there was  
>> some
>> kind of mechanism for having Pd automatically load the installed  
>> loaders
>> if they are in a given folder.  Something like /etc/apache/sites- 
>> enabled.
>
>
> i think the puredata package in debian should follow the pd-vanilla
> package as closely as possible [*].
> adding functionality for an autoloaded directory is definitely  
> something
> that is beyond that (imho).
>
> so i'd say: get the autoload-directory stuff into upstream.
>
> in the meantime, loaders should be loaded like any other libraries
> (which they are).
>
> if autoload-directory makes it into upstream, we can start talking  
> about
> putting loaders into that.
> personally i think it's a bad idea (and i would probably not want to  
> use
> that package myself then)
>
> please remember that no package installs anything directly into
> /etc/apache/sites-enabled, it's the user who puts their configuration
> into it.


Why do you think having the ability to  autoload loaders is a bad  
idea?  I can't see a disadvantage, but I am not saying there couldn't  
be one.  I would like to see it be possible to write Pd objects in a  
bunch of different langauges, then transparently use them as if they  
were any Pd object.  Here's how I see it:

- there is a library of nice GUI objects using tclpd
- that gets packaged up Pd-extended, Debian, pure:dyne, etc.
- someone else goes looking for GUI objects and finds the  
niceGUIobjects lib
- they [import niceGUIobjects] and try making objects
- they get lots of errors in the Pd window and no GUI objects

Seems to me that for users, tclpd should already be loaded.

.hc

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