[PD-dev] Join the Compile Farm (was Re: 64-bit build for, Windows?)

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Thu Sep 9 01:58:34 CEST 2010 

Hey Pierre Olivier,

Glad to hear you are back on the project!  mescalinum has made some  
progress on this in the meantime, and added to the documentation on  
the wiki:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64

You can also often find mescalinum and me (_hc) on IRC chat in irc://irc.freenode.net/dataflow

.hc


On Sep 8, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm still alive. I've been quite busy. I have a little more time now  
> and I'm getting some help with the setup of the compilation  
> environment for Windows 64. Hopefully this evening we'll get it to  
> work. I'll tell you how it goes.
>
> Cheers
> Pierre-Olivier
>
>
>
>
>
> On 09/07/2010 17:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>
>> You can put the SVN files anywhere.  Having no spaces in the path  
>> is probably good, but maybe not mandatory.
>>
>> Cygwin is useful to have and can't hurt as far as I know.
>>
>> .hc
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>
>>> Tortoisesvn is getting all the files from svn.
>>> Is there somewhere special I should download them to? I used a  
>>> folder on a secondary partition to keep the main partition being  
>>> overflowed with compilation files.
>>> F:\pd-ext-compilation\svn\sources\...
>>>
>>> I couldn't find any hints on WindowsMinGW wiki as what functions I  
>>> needed. I'll give it a first try wit the old version. And I'll  
>>> look into the newer files a bit later.
>>>
>>>
>>> With MinGW, MSYS, should I get Cygwin too?
>>>
>>> pob
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/07/2010 22:30, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I used the "old" MSYS 1.0.11.
>>>>> I didn't catch all I should do with the newer ones.
>>>>> There are several "base system"/"CORE" files and for the  
>>>>> functions too. Which one(s) is/are the one(s) I need to  
>>>>> download. (bin ext doc dbg dev src lic) ? All of them? Is there  
>>>>> a way in Sourceforge to get all files in one go instead of one  
>>>>> by one.
>>>>
>>>> You probably don't need everything.  I'd follow the WindowsMinGW  
>>>> page on that.
>>>>
>>>>> Can I just overwrite the old versions with the newer ones so as  
>>>>> to keep the general structure of MSYS? Or is this bad practice?
>>>>
>>>> I've generally deleted the old copies before installing new ones.
>>>>
>>>>> Do I need to install tortoisesvn to get the pd-extended 0.42.5  
>>>>> svn?
>>>>
>>>> You need either SVN or rsync.  The command line versions of both  
>>>> are in Cygwin and easy to install there.  You could also use  
>>>> tortoisesvn
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry again for the beginner's questions. :)
>>>>
>>>> Keep them coming, getting 64-bit builds on Windows will be a  
>>>> valuable contribution!
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>>> pob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/07/2010 21:49, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its not as complicated as it looks, its mostly a matter of  
>>>>>> getting the files in the right places.  You should also install  
>>>>>> MSYS, check the WindowsMinGW page for how.  But perhaps you  
>>>>>> should use a newer version of MSYS.  Then try a build, download  
>>>>>> the Pd-extended source, and do this from the MSYS shell:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cd pd/src
>>>>>> make -f makefile.mingw
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My guess is that the 64-bit instructions are going to end up  
>>>>>> looking quite similar to the WindowsMinGW page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Hans and everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for the encouragment. It might take time, indeed. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, I installed the tdm-gcc.tdragon.net x32 and x64 MinGW.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 08/07/2010 21:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Working on this is definitely not a waste of time, but it is  
>>>>>>>> not a simple project.  We all start somewhere, so motivation  
>>>>>>>> is the key rather than skills.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would avoid trying to build anything and instead install  
>>>>>>>> from binaries.  Building compilers can be a real pain.   
>>>>>>>> Cygwin is quite easy to install, so I see no harm in  
>>>>>>>> installing it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I created a wiki page to document our progress, everyone  
>>>>>>>> should write notes there:
>>>>>>>> https://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Upon looking at it, I think a good place to start is by  
>>>>>>>> downloading the most recent of mingw-w64-bin-x86_64:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.drangon.org/mingw/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This looks even more promising though:
>>>>>>>> http://tdm-gcc.tdragon.net/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm new here. I've offered to help with the Windows 64bit  
>>>>>>>>> build. I'm really new to compiling software, so I'll  
>>>>>>>>> probalby need some help to get started. If you think this is  
>>>>>>>>> unmanageable for a beginner don't be afraid to tell me so. I  
>>>>>>>>> have some good will and patience, but I don't want to waste  
>>>>>>>>> anyone's time. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm reading the MinGW-w64 pages on Sourceforge.
>>>>>>>>> I should be looking for a native compiler for w64, but I  
>>>>>>>>> can't seem to find any. I suppose since it's a native  
>>>>>>>>> compiler I can build it myself. Is this correct. Then,  
>>>>>>>>> should I download a tarball and compile from the source?
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise I found what seems to be a native version here:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.drangon.org/mingw/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I cannont find either the MinGW-get installer mentioned on  
>>>>>>>>> the 32bit version of the instructions. I suppose there is  
>>>>>>>>> nothing similar for the 64bit version for the time being.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I suppose I have to get Cygwin for compilation too. Anything  
>>>>>>>>> I should pay special attention to concerning this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help
>>>>>>>>> Pierre-Olivier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 02/07/2010 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A Windows 7 build sounds like a good idea.  The first place  
>>>>>>>>>> to start is getting a MinGW-w64 build environment setup.   
>>>>>>>>>> If you get that installed, then first try just building the  
>>>>>>>>>> core of pd-extended without all the libraries.  That  
>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't be too hard to get going.
>>>>>>>>>> http://mingw-w64.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is the whole instructions for the 32-bit environment:
>>>>>>>>>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps it makes sense to continue this discussion on pd-dev?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using Puredata for a year now and I'd be glad to  
>>>>>>>>>>> help with the new release.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be getting a new computer for performances in the  
>>>>>>>>>>> coming up week.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It will be an Asus N82 (it's not on their website at the  
>>>>>>>>>>> moment).
>>>>>>>>>>> Intel Core i7 - 720QM (quad core) with 4GB of RAM an  
>>>>>>>>>>> Nvidia Geforce GT335M
>>>>>>>>>>> The OS is a Windows 7 64bit. I might install some linux  
>>>>>>>>>>> distro too alongside the original OS.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I can leave the computer on as much as needed for the  
>>>>>>>>>>> autobuild process. I will use the computer for my own too.  
>>>>>>>>>>> But I can leave it on at night.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if you want specifically Windows XP or if  
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 7 which is more and more widespread now can do too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can contact me with this email or with skype (same  
>>>>>>>>>>> email address).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre-Olivier
>




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