[PD-dev] Join the Compile Farm (was Re: 64-bit build for, Windows?)

Pierre-Olivier Boulant po.boulant at free.fr
Fri Sep 17 21:28:20 CEST 2010 

  Hi,

I haven't given up.
I've seen Mescalinum has succeeded in a first compilation. That's great 
news and also the release of pd-ext 0.42.5.
I have a lot of work until the end of the month as I told you, I won't 
have much time to look into this.
I'll get back to you as soon as I get this exhibition up.

I'm making fake archives for he first man on the Moon who wasn't 
American as we all think, but from some forlorn part of the countryside 
where they ran out of pastures for their cows and had to terraform the 
Moon to have more fields for grazing.
The basic question out of all this might be why aren't rural cultures 
very conquering powers?

Cheers
pob



On 17/09/2010 20:37, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
> If you are still game, I would start with the code from git, and once 
> you get that working, then you can try to take on Pd-extended!  That 
> means compiling lots of libraries.
>
> .hc
>
> On Sep 9, 2010, at 2:57 AM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I got some help from a hackerlab here in Toulouse, tetalab.org. A lot 
>> of cursing and swearing after Windows as you can imagine! :)
>>
>> I think we have managed to install most of the tool chain last night.
>> We followed the instructions for the 32bit tool chain. Most of the 
>> tool chain is 32bit programs but MingW, which is 64bit. We got to the 
>> stage of the ASIO SDK (included).
>> It was late when we finished and didn't have the time to try and run 
>> a compilation.
>>
>> Should I get the source from the git or the svn?
>> I've seen you switched over the last weeks.
>>
>> If I can recollect all he did, I'll try to add that to the wiki page.
>>
>> See you on IRC. My alias is 'pob'.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Pierre-Olivier
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/09/2010 01:58, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Pierre Olivier,
>>>
>>> Glad to hear you are back on the project!  mescalinum has made some 
>>> progress on this in the meantime, and added to the documentation on 
>>> the wiki:
>>>
>>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64
>>>
>>> You can also often find mescalinum and me (_hc) on IRC chat in 
>>> irc://irc.freenode.net/dataflow
>>>
>>> .hc
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 8, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm still alive. I've been quite busy. I have a little more time 
>>>> now and I'm getting some help with the setup of the compilation 
>>>> environment for Windows 64. Hopefully this evening we'll get it to 
>>>> work. I'll tell you how it goes.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Pierre-Olivier
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/07/2010 17:55, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You can put the SVN files anywhere.  Having no spaces in the path 
>>>>> is probably good, but maybe not mandatory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cygwin is useful to have and can't hurt as far as I know.
>>>>>
>>>>> .hc
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tortoisesvn is getting all the files from svn.
>>>>>> Is there somewhere special I should download them to? I used a 
>>>>>> folder on a secondary partition to keep the main partition being 
>>>>>> overflowed with compilation files.
>>>>>> F:\pd-ext-compilation\svn\sources\...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I couldn't find any hints on WindowsMinGW wiki as what functions 
>>>>>> I needed. I'll give it a first try wit the old version. And I'll 
>>>>>> look into the newer files a bit later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With MinGW, MSYS, should I get Cygwin too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/07/2010 22:30, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I used the "old" MSYS 1.0.11.
>>>>>>>> I didn't catch all I should do with the newer ones.
>>>>>>>> There are several "base system"/"CORE" files and for the 
>>>>>>>> functions too. Which one(s) is/are the one(s) I need to 
>>>>>>>> download. (bin ext doc dbg dev src lic) ? All of them? Is there 
>>>>>>>> a way in Sourceforge to get all files in one go instead of one 
>>>>>>>> by one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You probably don't need everything.  I'd follow the WindowsMinGW 
>>>>>>> page on that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can I just overwrite the old versions with the newer ones so as 
>>>>>>>> to keep the general structure of MSYS? Or is this bad practice?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've generally deleted the old copies before installing new ones.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do I need to install tortoisesvn to get the pd-extended 0.42.5 
>>>>>>>> svn?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need either SVN or rsync.  The command line versions of both 
>>>>>>> are in Cygwin and easy to install there.  You could also use 
>>>>>>> tortoisesvn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry again for the beginner's questions. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keep them coming, getting 64-bit builds on Windows will be a 
>>>>>>> valuable contribution!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> pob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 08/07/2010 21:49, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Its not as complicated as it looks, its mostly a matter of 
>>>>>>>>> getting the files in the right places.  You should also 
>>>>>>>>> install MSYS, check the WindowsMinGW page for how.  But 
>>>>>>>>> perhaps you should use a newer version of MSYS.  Then try a 
>>>>>>>>> build, download the Pd-extended source, and do this from the 
>>>>>>>>> MSYS shell:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cd pd/src
>>>>>>>>> make -f makefile.mingw
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My guess is that the 64-bit instructions are going to end up 
>>>>>>>>> looking quite similar to the WindowsMinGW page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello Hans and everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the encouragment. It might take time, indeed. :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK, I installed the tdm-gcc.tdragon.net x32 and x64 MinGW.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 08/07/2010 21:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Working on this is definitely not a waste of time, but it is 
>>>>>>>>>>> not a simple project.  We all start somewhere, so motivation 
>>>>>>>>>>> is the key rather than skills.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would avoid trying to build anything and instead install 
>>>>>>>>>>> from binaries.  Building compilers can be a real pain.  
>>>>>>>>>>> Cygwin is quite easy to install, so I see no harm in 
>>>>>>>>>>> installing it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I created a wiki page to document our progress, everyone 
>>>>>>>>>>> should write notes there:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://puredata.info/docs/developer/Windows64BitMinGWX64
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Upon looking at it, I think a good place to start is by 
>>>>>>>>>>> downloading the most recent of mingw-w64-bin-x86_64:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.drangon.org/mingw/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This looks even more promising though:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://tdm-gcc.tdragon.net/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm new here. I've offered to help with the Windows 64bit 
>>>>>>>>>>>> build. I'm really new to compiling software, so I'll 
>>>>>>>>>>>> probalby need some help to get started. If you think this 
>>>>>>>>>>>> is unmanageable for a beginner don't be afraid to tell me 
>>>>>>>>>>>> so. I have some good will and patience, but I don't want to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> waste anyone's time. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm reading the MinGW-w64 pages on Sourceforge.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I should be looking for a native compiler for w64, but I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't seem to find any. I suppose since it's a native 
>>>>>>>>>>>> compiler I can build it myself. Is this correct. Then, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> should I download a tarball and compile from the source?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Otherwise I found what seems to be a native version here:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.drangon.org/mingw/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I cannont find either the MinGW-get installer mentioned on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the 32bit version of the instructions. I suppose there is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing similar for the 64bit version for the time being.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose I have to get Cygwin for compilation too. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anything I should pay special attention to concerning this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre-Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/07/2010 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A Windows 7 build sounds like a good idea.  The first 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> place to start is getting a MinGW-w64 build environment 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> setup.  If you get that installed, then first try just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> building the core of pd-extended without all the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> libraries.  That shouldn't be too hard to get going.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://mingw-w64.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the whole instructions for the 32-bit environment:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps it makes sense to continue this discussion on pd-dev?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .hc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Pierre-Olivier Boulant wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using Puredata for a year now and I'd be glad 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to help with the new release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be getting a new computer for performances in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming up week.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will be an Asus N82 (it's not on their website at the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moment).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel Core i7 - 720QM (quad core) with 4GB of RAM an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nvidia Geforce GT335M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The OS is a Windows 7 64bit. I might install some linux 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distro too alongside the original OS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can leave the computer on as much as needed for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> autobuild process. I will use the computer for my own 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too. But I can leave it on at night.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if you want specifically Windows XP or if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 7 which is more and more widespread now can do too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can contact me with this email or with skype (same 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email address).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre-Olivier
>>>>

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