[PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

[Roman Haefeli]

Hi

It seems that since Pd 0.43 a Pd file does not save the window manager
window position and size anymore (at least on linux), but instead the
position and the size of the canvas, i.e. the white patching area. 

This has some implications. Since window decorations (title bar, window
borders) have different sizes/widths across different window managers,
but even different sizes across certain themes of certain window
managers, the patch window of a saved patch doesn't always appear at the
position where it was saved. Even more, the next time the patch is saved
and re-loaded, it's shifted again, etc.

I am usually running fluxbox and with my current theme, the offset is 
x: -3px
y: -9px

With the Ubuntu Lucid default theme (Gnome), the offset is:
x: -1px
y: 0px

Can that be addressed somehow, or is it not possible from tcl/tk to know
the properties of the window decorations?

In fluxbox, there is the side effect, that when xPos or yPos is
negative, the window is drawn to the next window free area of the screen
instead of the stored position. 

Another new issue since 0.43 in fluxbox is, that a second instance of Pd
is always opened on the workspace where the first instance is running.
This wasn't the case with older versions of Pd (i.e.: it was possible to
start a second instance of Pd in a new workspace.

Is anybody else experiencing similar issues and might have some ideas
how to resolve this?

Cheers
Roman