[PD-dev] Pd-extended-0.43 appearance

[Roman Haefeli]

On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 17:15 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> On Oct 21, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 12:33 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> >> On Oct 21, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Hans
> >>>
> >>> I noticed a significant difference between Pd-extended-0.43 and
> >>> Pd-vanilla-0.43 appearance. Symbol- and Numberboxes are 2 px  
> >>> higher in
> >>> Extended than in Vanilla. This is especially problematic in cases
> >>> where
> >>> a GOP-patch in Vanilla was created so that the number/symbol box
> >>> perfectly fits in. The same GOP-abstraction in Pd-extended does not
> >>> show
> >>> the number/symbol box at all, because it is overlapping the GOP area
> >>> of
> >>> the abstraction.
> >>
> >> I measured a default number box on Pd-extended 0.42.5 and 0.43.  They
> >> both were 21x39 pixels at 12 point font size.  I don't know the
> >> details of the current state of this stuff in vanilla, but in Pd-
> >> extended, these sizes have been consistent across platform and  
> >> version
> >> since 0.41 at least.
> >
> > I totally believe you that Pd-extended was consistent to itself since
> > 0.41. Still, the difference renders certain patches/abstractions  
> > somehow
> > unportable between the two (extended and vanilla). What do you think
> > would be the best way to deal with that?
> 
> IMHO, it would be two things:
> 
> - make Pd vanilla do what Pd-extended does in terms of box sizing

1) Why does Pd-vanilla have to adapt itself to Pd-extended (and not vice
versa)?

2) What is it that Pd-extended does in terms of box sizing?

3) Is there any way I can help with that?


> - or, even better, make pd send pd messages to pd-gui instead of Tcl,  
> and move GUI size, mouse, click, etc handling to pd-gui.  Then we get  
> zoomable GUIs and all sorts of other good things.  Big project tho

Sorry, I think I am not able to help with that.

Roman