[PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array

Miller Puckette msp at ucsd.edu
Thu Oct 25 22:56:10 CEST 2012


THe whole edifice needs to be reworked I'm afraid... but it's a big project
which I haven't yet been able to get started on.

cheers
M

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 04:37:53PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> I can see a reason to rate limit the updates, but totally stopping them seems
> really bad to me.  Anyone disagree?
> 
> .hc
> 
> On 10/25/2012 03:56 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> > At arraysize = 4352 I get animation for the full range of the slider
> > 
> > At arraysize = 4353 I get frozen array for full range
> > 
> > Of course if I try to  move the number box down with arraysize at 4352
> > I get freezes.
> > 
> > Changing to polygons or points doesn't change it.
> > 
> > In general there's nothing special about the98.5 rate.  For arraysize=n
> > there's obviously an update rate x under which it no longer sends updates,
> > and I guess for the size you chose that's it.
> > 
> > How does other software like Supercllider deal with scope updates?
> > 
> > 
> > -Jonathan
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> >> To: pd-dev at iem.at
> >> Cc: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:28 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for [tabwrite~] into visual array
> >>
> >>
> >> OK, this is strange.  Lorenzo's patch works fine on mine too, down to 2ms.
> >> But my patch still has the same 98.5ms issue. Its attached again, if you could
> >> try it.
> >>
> >> .hc
> >>
> >> On 10/25/2012 06:21 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   Same here, 0.43.4-extended-20121022 - Wheezy (guess it's the most 
> >> recent
> >>>   extended autobuild?)
> >>>   The attached patch works all the way down to 2 msec, of course with various
> >>>   'artefacts'.
> >>>
> >>>   Lorenzo
> >>>
> >>>   On 25/10/12 04:28, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> >>>>   It updates fine with 0.43.1-extended-20120815 on Wheezy, even at [metro 
> >> 2]
> >>>>   although I
> >>>>   start getting sluggishness with that setting.
> >>>>
> >>>>   -Jonathan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>   From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> >>>>>   To: pd-dev List <pd-dev at iem.at>
> >>>>>   Cc:
> >>>>>   Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:33 PM
> >>>>>   Subject: Re: [PD-dev] strange behavior of [metro 98.5] for 
> >> [tabwrite~] into
> >>>>>   visual array
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   No ideas on this one?  It is a serious bug since it means that 
> >> arrays stop
> >>>>>   being drawn at all when banged often than 100ms.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   .hc
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   On 10/08/2012 12:26 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> >>>>>>    I've noticed that if you bang a [tabwrite~ array1] more 
> >> often than
> >>>>>   about 100ms, the array that its writing to will not send updates to 
> >> the
> >>>>>   GUI.  It
> >>>>>   seems that its a kind of a fade out with [metro 100] seems to send 
> >> all
> >>>>>   updates,
> >>>>>   [metro 98.8] send some updates and [metro 95] sends basically none.
> >>>>>>    Any ideas what could be causing this?  I didn't see 
> >> anything.  This
> >>>>>   happens on 0.42.5, 0.43.4 and pure-data.git master.  Attached is 
> >> patch to
> >>>>>   demonstrate this.
> >>>>>>    .hc
> >>>>>>
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