[PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at yahoo.com
Sat Nov 17 03:33:36 CET 2012


Sounds good.  I'll just make the link on puredata.info download page point there.

-Jonathan



----- Original Message -----
> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
> To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "pd-dev at iem.at List" <pd-dev at iem.at>
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 8:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
> 
> 
> Yes, I think working in the SVN directly there makes a lot of sense.  Please 
> commit there directly, if that works for you.
> 
> .hc
> 
> On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> 
>>  I meant puredata.info, as in the tcl file I uploaded there.
>>   
>>  I should delete that now and just make changes through
>>  svn, right?
>>   
>>  -Jonathan
>>   
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>>>  To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>>>  Cc: "pd-dev at iem.at List" <pd-dev at iem.at>
>>>  Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 12:17 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  What's the pd.info stuff?
>>> 
>>>  .hc
>>> 
>>>  On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  But how do I keep the pd.info stuff in sync with your changes?
>>>> 
>>>>  -Jonathan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>> 
>>>>>  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>>>>>  To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>>>>>  Cc: "pd-dev at iem.at List" <pd-dev at iem.at>
>>>>>  Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:07 PM
>>>>>  Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  I just checked in some changes to search-plugin to try the 
> translation 
>>>  stuff.
>>>>>  First, I added [_ ""] to most of the strings there.  
> The rest 
>>>  I left 
>>>>>  because
>>>>>  they'll need a little more work.  Then I added a 
> 'po' 
>>>  folder with a 
>>>>>  Makefile
>>>>>  to generate the translations.  I mostly did this to have a dev 
>>>  environment for
>>>>>  trying out having translation support for plugins.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  .hc
>>>>> 
>>>>>  On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>>>>  Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin 
> interface:
>>>>>> 
> https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Don't use this one yet, because I have some more 
> changes to
>>>>>>  make based on the following question:
>>>>>>  1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the
>>>>>>  "Help" menu from inside my plugin?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, 
> along
>>>>>>  with an accelerator <ctrl-g>, without disturbing old 
> grumps 
>>>  and
>>>>>>  their <ctrl-b> browser.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  -Jonathan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>  From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at>
>>>>>>>  To: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>  Cc: "pd-dev at iem.at List" 
> <pd-dev at iem.at>
>>>>>>>  Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM
>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a 
> plugin than 
>>>  make it 
>>>>>  an 
>>>>>>>  internal
>>>>>>>  file.  I think it will be much easier for you to work 
> on the 
>>>  search 
>>>>>  plugin if
>>>>>>>  it stays as a plugin.  If its a plugin that's 
> included in 
>>>>>  Pd-extended, it 
>>>>>>>  can
>>>>>>>  be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version 
> into 
>>>>>  ~/pd-externals.
>>>>>>>  The dev process will be easier too, since updates 
> won't 
>>>  have to go 
>>>>>  thru the
>>>>>>>  patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller.  I think 
> this same 
>>>  approach 
>>>>>  could 
>>>>>>>  work
>>>>>>>  for vanilla too with the same advantages.  All that 
> Miller 
>>>  would need 
>>>>>  to do to
>>>>>>>  include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  .hc
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>>>>>>>>     I already did substantial work on the drop-in 
> replacement 
>>>  for the
>>>>>>>>     helpbrowser based on the feedback I got.  I had 
> no idea 
>>>  the
>>>>>>>>     gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship 
> actual 
>>>  plugins running
>>>>>>>>     by default in pd-extended.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     -Jonathan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>     From: Hans-Christoph Steiner 
> <hans at at.or.at>
>>>>>>>>>     To: "pd-dev at iem.at List" 
>>>  <pd-dev at iem.at>
>>>>>>>>>     Cc: 
>>>>>>>>>     Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM
>>>>>>>>>     Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in 
> Pd-extended
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     Hey Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl 
> into
>>>>>>>>>     scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, 
> overwriting my 
>>>  original, 
>>>>>  simple one.  
>>>>>>>  I put
>>>>>>>>>     it there because I'm adding it to 
> Pd-extended.  I 
>>>  think it 
>>>>>  makes 
>>>>>>>  sense to 
>>>>>>>>>     just
>>>>>>>>>     include your plugin directly rather than as 
> a remixed 
>>> 
>>>>>  helpbrowser.tcl.  
>>>>>>>  I also
>>>>>>>>>     just committed a check that makes sure that 
> pd-gui 
>>>  doesn't 
>>>>>  try to 
>>>>>>>  load a
>>>>>>>>>     plugin that has already been loaded. That 
> way when 
>>>  you make 
>>>>>  new version 
>>>>>>>  of the
>>>>>>>>>     search plugin, people can just drop it into 
>>>  ~/pd-externals and 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  it'll 
>>>>>>>>>     override
>>>>>>>>>     the built-in search-plugin.tcl.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, 
> feel free to 
>>>  take 
>>>>>  that over 
>>>>>>>  and do
>>>>>>>>>     whatever you want with it.  I can't see 
> a reason 
>>>  to keep 
>>>>>  the old 
>>>>>>>  one around
>>>>>>>>>     any more, your search plugin is very 
> thorough.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     .hc
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     
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