[PD-dev] width control breaks parsing with [textfile]

[Jonathan Wilkes]

On 07/01/2013 09:04 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
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> On 2013-06-29 15:43, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>> I don't know any solution off-hand and I also don't know whether Pd
>> was designed with the possibility in mind to read patches with
>> [textfile]. I just want to have it mentioned. And yes, it does
>> break some of my patches (not that this would be a reason not go
>> forward and change Pd's file format).
> since my personal preferences for those "," appendices to objects go
> into the direction of using them for messages that the object itself
> can understand(e.g.
> #X obj 100 100 readsf~, open foo.wav;
> ) i'd rather vote for keeping "meta"-messages (e.g. those that tell
> the GUI-renderer which color the object should have) separate.
>
> e.g.
> #X obj 100 100 readsf~;
> #G width 10;

I second that vote, and also vote to never actually implement #G:
* as I've never seen a request for the feature of having a bunch of
differently colored object boxes in a patch
* since specifying width doesn't solve the problem of making arbitrary 
line breaks in
comments without using a semicolon
* since specifying width can be done with a method for comments
* since the number of classes that create inside an object box and which 
would benefit from resizable widths can
be counted on no fingers
* since specifying gui props with commas separated methods in an object
box allows the _user_ to specify both gui and state properties without
lifting their hands from the keyboard:

[vsl, label look_ma_no_mouse, label_pos 20 20, size...]

-Jonathan

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>
> oh btw, i really don't see a reason to use cryptic 'f' selectors, when
> we could use meaningful names like "width".
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> fgamsdr
> IOhannes
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