[PD-dev] width control breaks parsing with [textfile]

[Miller Puckette]

Just to stir the pot, as it were :) -

The 'f' message is intended to mean 'format' and could be expanded to
specify font style and size, and/or other formatting info (perhaps even to
suppress carriage return on semi, think of that!)

cheers
Miller

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 02:48:30AM -0400, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
> On 07/01/2013 09:04 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
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> >On 2013-06-29 15:43, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> >>I don't know any solution off-hand and I also don't know whether Pd
> >>was designed with the possibility in mind to read patches with
> >>[textfile]. I just want to have it mentioned. And yes, it does
> >>break some of my patches (not that this would be a reason not go
> >>forward and change Pd's file format).
> >since my personal preferences for those "," appendices to objects go
> >into the direction of using them for messages that the object itself
> >can understand(e.g.
> >#X obj 100 100 readsf~, open foo.wav;
> >) i'd rather vote for keeping "meta"-messages (e.g. those that tell
> >the GUI-renderer which color the object should have) separate.
> >
> >e.g.
> >#X obj 100 100 readsf~;
> >#G width 10;
> 
> I second that vote, and also vote to never actually implement #G:
> * as I've never seen a request for the feature of having a bunch of
> differently colored object boxes in a patch
> * since specifying width doesn't solve the problem of making
> arbitrary line breaks in
> comments without using a semicolon
> * since specifying width can be done with a method for comments
> * since the number of classes that create inside an object box and
> which would benefit from resizable widths can
> be counted on no fingers
> * since specifying gui props with commas separated methods in an object
> box allows the _user_ to specify both gui and state properties without
> lifting their hands from the keyboard:
> 
> [vsl, label look_ma_no_mouse, label_pos 20 20, size...]
> 
> -Jonathan
> 
> >
> >
> >oh btw, i really don't see a reason to use cryptic 'f' selectors, when
> >we could use meaningful names like "width".
> >
> >fgamsdr
> >IOhannes
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