[PD-dev] Can somebody help to create a desktop / VST / AU version of a PD / libPD / app ?

Dan Wilcox danomatika at gmail.com
Wed Apr 22 23:30:20 CEST 2015


Thanks. Unfortunately still a crash, but now at a different place. I also confirmed that it still runs fine when libpd is compiled with -O3 aka make DEBUG=true.

#0  signal_cleanup [inlined] () at /Users/dano/src/pd/libpd/pure-data/src/d_ugen.c:364
#1  0x0000000100026680 in ugen_stop () at d_ugen.c:562
#2  0x000000010002670e in ugen_start () at d_ugen.c:569
#3  0x000000010003197e in glob_dsp (dummy=0x100102e00, s=0x0, argc=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, argv=0x100102e20) at g_canvas.c:1086
#4  0x000000010006d286 in pd_typedmess (x=0x1000a5760, s=0x0, argc=1055232, argv=0x100102e20) at m_class.c:699
#5  0x0000000100096fb8 in libpd_message [inlined] () at /Users/dano/src/pd/libpd/libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c:236
#6  0x0000000100096fb8 in libpd_finish_message (recv=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, msg=0x100000f67 "dsp") at z_libpd.c:562
#7  0x0000000100000b8f in main ()

In detail:

#0  signal_cleanup [inlined] () at /Users/dano/src/pd/libpd/pure-data/src/d_ugen.c:364
364	        pd_this->pd_signals = sig->s_nextused;
(gdb) frame 1
#1  0x0000000100026680 in ugen_stop () at d_ugen.c:562
364	        pd_this->pd_signals = sig->s_nextused;
(gdb) frame 2
#2  0x000000010002670e in ugen_start () at d_ugen.c:569
569	    ugen_stop();
(gdb) frame 3
#3  0x000000010003197e in glob_dsp (dummy=0x100102e00, s=0x0, argc=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, argv=0x100102e20) at g_canvas.c:1086
1086	    ugen_start();
(gdb) frame 4
#4  0x000000010006d286 in pd_typedmess (x=0x1000a5760, s=0x0, argc=1055232, argv=0x100102e20) at m_class.c:699
699	            else (*((t_messgimme)(m->me_fun)))(x, s, argc, argv);
(gdb) frame 5
#5  0x0000000100096fb8 in libpd_message [inlined] () at /Users/dano/src/pd/libpd/libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c:236
236	  pd_typedmess(dest, gensym(msg), n, v);
(gdb) frame 6
#6  0x0000000100096fb8 in libpd_finish_message (recv=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, msg=0x100000f67 "dsp") at z_libpd.c:562
236	  pd_typedmess(dest, gensym(msg), n, v);
(gdb) frame 7
#7  0x0000000100000b8f in main ()

--------
Dan Wilcox
@danomatika
danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
> OK ... I think I fixed it... pull newest from git and try.
> 
> thanks
> M
> 
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:35:10PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
>> Aha - sometimes things crash on OSX because of "minor" buffer overruns that
>> linux just soldiers past.  I'll break out a mac and try again...
>> 
>> M
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 03:03:09AM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>>> Weird. It crashes for me on OSX when libpd is built with -O3 and the program is built with or without -O3.
>>> 
>>> *Note: I just finished reorganizing the libpd samples by language name. If you do a pull, the multi instance test is now located in samples/c/pdtest_multi 
>>> 
>>> Rebuilding and running it again yields:
>>> 
>>> Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory.
>>> Reason: 13 at address: 0x0000000000000000
>>> outlet_float (x=0x3f7ffc2a3f7ffc38, f=0) at m_obj.c:388
>>> 388	    for (oc = x->o_connections; oc; oc = oc->oc_next)
>>> 
>>> #0  outlet_float (x=0x3f7ffc2a3f7ffc38, f=0) at m_obj.c:388
>>> #1  0x000000010006f0b9 in outlet_bang (x=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>) at m_obj.c:363
>>> #2  0x00000001000953f9 in metro_tick (x=0x10021ad90) at x_time.c:162
>>> #3  0x0000000100071010 in sched_tick () at m_sched.c:418
>>> #4  0x0000000100096733 in libpd_process_float (ticks=1, inBuffer=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, outBuffer=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>) at z_libpd.c:185
>>> #5  0x0000000100000d67 in main ()
>>> 
>>> some frame detail:
>>> 
>>> (gdb) frame 0
>>> #0  outlet_float (x=0x3f7ffc2a3f7ffc38, f=0) at m_obj.c:388
>>> 388	    for (oc = x->o_connections; oc; oc = oc->oc_next)
>>> (gdb) frame 1
>>> #1  0x000000010006f0b9 in outlet_bang (x=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>) at m_obj.c:363
>>> 363	        pd_bang(oc->oc_to);
>>> (gdb) frame 2
>>> #2  0x00000001000953f9 in metro_tick (x=0x10021ad90) at x_time.c:162
>>> 162	    outlet_bang(x->x_obj.ob_outlet);
>>> (gdb) frame 3
>>> #3  0x0000000100071010 in sched_tick () at m_sched.c:418
>>> 418	        (*c->c_fn)(c->c_owner);
>>> (gdb) frame 4
>>> #4  0x0000000100096733 in libpd_process_float (ticks=1, inBuffer=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, outBuffer=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>) at z_libpd.c:185
>>> 185	  PROCESS(,)
>>> (gdb) frame 5
>>> #5  0x0000000100000d67 in main ()
>>> 
>>> --------
>>> Dan Wilcox
>>> @danomatika
>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
>>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 12:15 AM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think it was optimized since I had already made libpd, not from the
>>>> sampes/.../multi directory.  But anyhow I re-did it as you suggest with
>>>> the same result....  can't make it fail...
>>>> 
>>>> cheers
>>>> M
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:03:28AM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>>>>> You ran it without the optimizations since I added the debug option. Remove DEBUG=true from line 33 in the Makefile: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/samples/c_samples/multi/Makefile#L33 <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/samples/c_samples/multi/Makefile#L33> and do a full clean before rebuilding:
>>>>> 
>>>>> cd ../../../ && make clobber && cd - && make
>>>>> --------
>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
>>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 11:57 PM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Dan et al -
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I gave this a try:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> git clone https://github.com/libpd/libpd.git
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [copies pd sources into libpd/pure-data]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cd libpd
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cd samples/c_samples/multi/
>>>>>> make
>>>>>> ./multi_pdtest multi_test.pd `pwd`
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and got output:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> print: 0
>>>>>> 1003-frequency: bang
>>>>>> print: 0
>>>>>> 1004-frequency: bang
>>>>>> 1003-frequency: 1
>>>>>> 1004-frequency: 2
>>>>>> 1.000000 1.000000 0.999999 0.999999 0.999998 0.999998 0.999997 0.999997 
>>>>>> 1.000000 1.000000 0.999998 0.999998 0.999996 0.999996 0.999995 0.999995 
>>>>>> print: 1
>>>>>> 0.999944 0.999944 0.999943 0.999943 0.999942 0.999942 0.999941 0.999941 
>>>>>> print: 1
>>>>>> 0.999815 0.999815 0.999810 0.999810 0.999804 0.999804 0.999799 0.999799 
>>>>>> print: 2
>>>>>> print: 2
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This on Fedora 21, 64 bits, Intel hardware.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I guess something subtle is happening, maybe in Pd and unrelated to libpd?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>> Miller
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 06:00:15PM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>>> Howdy Miller,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Following up from the dev list last year, I added your multi instance test to the c samples included with libpd: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/tree/master/samples/c_samples/multi <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/tree/master/samples/c_samples/multi>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The one thing I want to double check is the changes to z_libpd.c you mentioned in http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html: <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html:>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Here's how I modified libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 55d54
>>>>>>>> <   sys_time = 0;
>>>>>>>> 110c109
>>>>>>>> <   sched_tick(sys_time + sys_time_per_dsp_tick);
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> sched_tick();
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 130c129
>>>>>>>> <     sched_tick(sys_time + sys_time_per_dsp_tick); \
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   sched_tick(); \
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Currently, that line is https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c#L171 <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c#L171> and I’m getting a segfault if I replace it with sched_tick(); AND set gcc optimization to -O3
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here’s a gdb backtrace:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> #0  0x0000000100091f2f in outlet_float (x=0x3f7ffc2a3f7ffc38, f=0.999937057) at m_obj.c:388
>>>>>>> #1  0x00000001000ac572 in pdfloat_bang (x=0x10021ac20) at x_connective.c:89
>>>>>>> #2  0x0000000100093d58 in pd_bang (x=0x10021ac20) at m_pd.c:267
>>>>>>> #3  0x0000000100091ddd in outlet_bang (x=0x10021ae20) at m_obj.c:363
>>>>>>> #4  0x00000001000c45e4 in metro_tick (x=0x10021ada0) at x_time.c:162
>>>>>>> #5  0x0000000100095021 in sched_tick () at m_sched.c:418
>>>>>>> #6  0x00000001000c5d4d in libpd_process_float (ticks=1, inBuffer=0x7fff5fbffa50, outBuffer=0x7fff5fbff750) at z_libpd.c:173
>>>>>>> #7  0x0000000100000d18 in main ()
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If I don’t optimize, it works fine:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> print: 0
>>>>>>> 1003-frequency: bang
>>>>>>> print: 0
>>>>>>> 1004-frequency: bang
>>>>>>> 1003-frequency: 1
>>>>>>> 1004-frequency: 2
>>>>>>> 1.000000 1.000000 0.999999 0.999999 0.999998 0.999998 0.999997 0.999997 
>>>>>>> 1.000000 1.000000 0.999998 0.999998 0.999996 0.999996 0.999995 0.999995 
>>>>>>> print: 1
>>>>>>> 0.999944 0.999944 0.999943 0.999943 0.999942 0.999942 0.999941 0.999941 
>>>>>>> print: 1
>>>>>>> 0.999815 0.999815 0.999810 0.999810 0.999804 0.999804 0.999799 0.999799 
>>>>>>> print: 2
>>>>>>> print: 2
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
>>>>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Kjetil Matheussen <k.s.matheussen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But for libpd, are you sure you need to add anything? Can't just the user
>>>>>>>> call the pdinstance_new and pd_setinstance functions directly?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (BTW. When I wrote about libpds, I hadn't forgotten about the support for pd instances,
>>>>>>>> but since I didn't have all details in my head then, I didn't mention it. I should have though.)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> This should be possible with the current version of libpd which includes Miller’s multiple instance updates, see http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019839.html <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019839.html>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I just haven’t gotten around to adding libpd-specific wrapper functions for this yet, but Miller provides code in that dev list exchange.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
>>>>>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 6:00 AM, pd-dev-request at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev-request at lists.iem.at> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From: Oliver Greschke <info at o-g-sus.de <mailto:info at o-g-sus.de>>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [PD-dev] Can somebody help to create a desktop / VST / AU version of a PD / libPD / app ?
>>>>>>>>> Date: April 21, 2015 at 3:15:44 AM EDT
>>>>>>>>> To: pd-dev at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev at lists.iem.at>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> I am the creator of the Elastic Drums iOS app (with great PD help from Matt Davey).
>>>>>>>>> It’s made with PureData, libPD and Objective-C.
>>>>>>>>> I got asked a couple of times now, if there will be ever a standalone desktop version or even better Plugin (VST, AU) version of the app.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> As far as I know, there are not ready to use workarounds to do so. Which is sad, because I can imagine a lot of fantastic plugins emerging from PD
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Has somebody here some experience with doing such ports?
>>>>>>>>> Then please contact me.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Oliver
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> info at o-g-sus.de <mailto:info at o-g-sus.de>
>>>>>>>> 
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