[PD-dev] Can somebody help to create a desktop / VST / AU version of a PD / libPD / app ?
Dan Wilcox
danomatika at gmail.com
Mon Apr 27 23:17:32 CEST 2015
Is there any major overhead with pd_setinstance()? I ask as I’m thinking how to incorporate it into the C++ wrapper where each PdBase C++ instance refers to a separate pd instance, so that would basically mean alot of pd_setinstance() calls, basically one in every pdBase member function.
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Dan Wilcox
@danomatika
danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
> On Apr 26, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, now tracking 0.46 branch. Thanks.
>
> --------
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika
> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 10:25 PM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu <mailto:msp at ucsd.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Finally but the bullet and tried this...
>>
>> I made a branch, 0.46, adn committeed that and one other minor bug fix.
>> The commit is 905695a350bf44d906fbb8cde905fa0b81d12b57
>>
>> Too early in the game to make a 0.46-7 but I think if you track the 0.46 branch
>> you'll be OK.
>>
>> cheers
>> Miller
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:01:49AM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>>> Actually yeah, looks good. Is there anyway this particular patch can be backported to the 0.46-6 release? Or will there be a 0.46-7 coming up soon? I ask because I’m having libpd checkout pure-data release tags. Not a huge deal if not, since this is still in testing.
>>>
>>> Just to confirm:
>>>
>>> Current git log for the pure-data sources I’m using:
>>>
>>>> danomatika:pure-data dano$ git log
>>>> commit 35151c473827260c86cc864cc4cd058b24e67139
>>>> Author: Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu <mailto:msp at ucsd.edu>>
>>>> Date: Wed Apr 22 14:06:36 2015 -0700
>>>>
>>>> make list of signals local to a pd instance to fix libpd crasher
>>>
>>>
>>> Performed:
>>>
>>> cd libpd
>>> make clobber
>>> make
>>> cd samples/c/pdtest_multi
>>> make clobber
>>> make
>>> ./pdtest_multi test.pd ./
>>>
>>> Got:
>>>
>>>> start 80c04a90
>>>> stop 80c04a90
>>>> continue start 80c04a90
>>>> stop 80c04a90
>>>> print: 0
>>>> 1003-frequency: bang
>>>> start 80c04a90
>>>> stop 80c04a90
>>>> continue start 80c04a90
>>>> start 80c04db0
>>>> stop 80c04db0
>>>> continue start 80c04db0
>>>> stop 80c04db0
>>>> print: 0
>>>> 1004-frequency: bang
>>>> start 80c04db0
>>>> stop 80c04db0
>>>> continue start 80c04db0
>>>> 1003-frequency: 1
>>>> 1004-frequency: 2
>>>> 1.000000 1.000000 0.999999 0.999999 0.999998 0.999998 0.999997 0.999997
>>>> 1.000000 1.000000 0.999998 0.999998 0.999996 0.999996 0.999995 0.999995
>>>> print: 1
>>>> 0.999944 0.999944 0.999943 0.999943 0.999942 0.999942 0.999941 0.999941
>>>> print: 1
>>>> 0.999815 0.999815 0.999810 0.999810 0.999804 0.999804 0.999799 0.999799
>>>> print: 2
>>>> print: 2
>>>
>>> I got the same response with building libpd with & without -03.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Dan Wilcox
>>> @danomatika
>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> <http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com/>>
>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> <http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com/>>
>>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu <mailto:msp at ucsd.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hmm... and (just checking) - you did a make clean and rebuilt everything?
>>>> The pd_instance structure changed....
>>>>
>>>> I can't get it to fail over here any more...
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>> Miller
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 05:30:20PM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>>>>> Thanks. Unfortunately still a crash, but now at a different place. I also confirmed that it still runs fine when libpd is compiled with -O3 aka make DEBUG=true.
>>>>>
>>>>> #0 signal_cleanup [inlined] () at /Users/dano/src/pd/libpd/pure-data/src/d_ugen.c:364
>>>>> #1 0x0000000100026680 in ugen_stop () at d_ugen.c:562
>>>>> #2 0x000000010002670e in ugen_start () at d_ugen.c:569
>>>>> #3 0x000000010003197e in glob_dsp (dummy=0x100102e00, s=0x0, argc=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, argv=0x100102e20) at g_canvas.c:1086
>>>>> #4 0x000000010006d286 in pd_typedmess (x=0x1000a5760, s=0x0, argc=1055232, argv=0x100102e20) at m_class.c:699
>>>>> #5 0x0000000100096fb8 in libpd_message [inlined] () at /Users/dano/src/pd/libpd/libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c:236
>>>>> #6 0x0000000100096fb8 in libpd_finish_message (recv=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, msg=0x100000f67 "dsp") at z_libpd.c:562
>>>>> #7 0x0000000100000b8f in main ()
>>>>>
>>>>> In detail:
>>>>>
>>>>> #0 signal_cleanup [inlined] () at /Users/dano/src/pd/libpd/pure-data/src/d_ugen.c:364
>>>>> 364 pd_this->pd_signals = sig->s_nextused;
>>>>> (gdb) frame 1
>>>>> #1 0x0000000100026680 in ugen_stop () at d_ugen.c:562
>>>>> 364 pd_this->pd_signals = sig->s_nextused;
>>>>> (gdb) frame 2
>>>>> #2 0x000000010002670e in ugen_start () at d_ugen.c:569
>>>>> 569 ugen_stop();
>>>>> (gdb) frame 3
>>>>> #3 0x000000010003197e in glob_dsp (dummy=0x100102e00, s=0x0, argc=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, argv=0x100102e20) at g_canvas.c:1086
>>>>> 1086 ugen_start();
>>>>> (gdb) frame 4
>>>>> #4 0x000000010006d286 in pd_typedmess (x=0x1000a5760, s=0x0, argc=1055232, argv=0x100102e20) at m_class.c:699
>>>>> 699 else (*((t_messgimme)(m->me_fun)))(x, s, argc, argv);
>>>>> (gdb) frame 5
>>>>> #5 0x0000000100096fb8 in libpd_message [inlined] () at /Users/dano/src/pd/libpd/libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c:236
>>>>> 236 pd_typedmess(dest, gensym(msg), n, v);
>>>>> (gdb) frame 6
>>>>> #6 0x0000000100096fb8 in libpd_finish_message (recv=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, msg=0x100000f67 "dsp") at z_libpd.c:562
>>>>> 236 pd_typedmess(dest, gensym(msg), n, v);
>>>>> (gdb) frame 7
>>>>> #7 0x0000000100000b8f in main ()
>>>>>
>>>>> --------
>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> <http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com/>> <http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com/> <http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com/>>>
>>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> <http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com/>> <http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com/> <http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com/>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu <mailto:msp at ucsd.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK ... I think I fixed it... pull newest from git and try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:35:10PM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
>>>>>>> Aha - sometimes things crash on OSX because of "minor" buffer overruns that
>>>>>>> linux just soldiers past. I'll break out a mac and try again...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 03:03:09AM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>>>> Weird. It crashes for me on OSX when libpd is built with -O3 and the program is built with or without -O3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Note: I just finished reorganizing the libpd samples by language name. If you do a pull, the multi instance test is now located in samples/c/pdtest_multi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rebuilding and running it again yields:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Program received signal EXC_BAD_ACCESS, Could not access memory.
>>>>>>>> Reason: 13 at address: 0x0000000000000000
>>>>>>>> outlet_float (x=0x3f7ffc2a3f7ffc38, f=0) at m_obj.c:388
>>>>>>>> 388 for (oc = x->o_connections; oc; oc = oc->oc_next)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #0 outlet_float (x=0x3f7ffc2a3f7ffc38, f=0) at m_obj.c:388
>>>>>>>> #1 0x000000010006f0b9 in outlet_bang (x=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>) at m_obj.c:363
>>>>>>>> #2 0x00000001000953f9 in metro_tick (x=0x10021ad90) at x_time.c:162
>>>>>>>> #3 0x0000000100071010 in sched_tick () at m_sched.c:418
>>>>>>>> #4 0x0000000100096733 in libpd_process_float (ticks=1, inBuffer=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, outBuffer=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>) at z_libpd.c:185
>>>>>>>> #5 0x0000000100000d67 in main ()
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> some frame detail:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (gdb) frame 0
>>>>>>>> #0 outlet_float (x=0x3f7ffc2a3f7ffc38, f=0) at m_obj.c:388
>>>>>>>> 388 for (oc = x->o_connections; oc; oc = oc->oc_next)
>>>>>>>> (gdb) frame 1
>>>>>>>> #1 0x000000010006f0b9 in outlet_bang (x=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>) at m_obj.c:363
>>>>>>>> 363 pd_bang(oc->oc_to);
>>>>>>>> (gdb) frame 2
>>>>>>>> #2 0x00000001000953f9 in metro_tick (x=0x10021ad90) at x_time.c:162
>>>>>>>> 162 outlet_bang(x->x_obj.ob_outlet);
>>>>>>>> (gdb) frame 3
>>>>>>>> #3 0x0000000100071010 in sched_tick () at m_sched.c:418
>>>>>>>> 418 (*c->c_fn)(c->c_owner);
>>>>>>>> (gdb) frame 4
>>>>>>>> #4 0x0000000100096733 in libpd_process_float (ticks=1, inBuffer=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>, outBuffer=<value temporarily unavailable, due to optimizations>) at z_libpd.c:185
>>>>>>>> 185 PROCESS(,)
>>>>>>>> (gdb) frame 5
>>>>>>>> #5 0x0000000100000d67 in main ()
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> <http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com/>>
>>>>>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> <http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com/>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2015, at 12:15 AM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu <mailto:msp at ucsd.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think it was optimized since I had already made libpd, not from the
>>>>>>>>> sampes/.../multi directory. But anyhow I re-did it as you suggest with
>>>>>>>>> the same result.... can't make it fail...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>> M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:03:28AM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You ran it without the optimizations since I added the debug option. Remove DEBUG=true from line 33 in the Makefile: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/samples/c_samples/multi/Makefile#L33 <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/samples/c_samples/multi/Makefile#L33> <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/samples/c_samples/multi/Makefile#L33 <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/samples/c_samples/multi/Makefile#L33>> and do a full clean before rebuilding:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cd ../../../ && make clobber && cd - && make
>>>>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>>>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>>>>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> <http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com/>>
>>>>>>>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> <http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com/>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 11:57 PM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu <mailto:msp at ucsd.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dan et al -
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I gave this a try:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> git clone https://github.com/libpd/libpd.git <https://github.com/libpd/libpd.git>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [copies pd sources into libpd/pure-data]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> cd libpd
>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> cd samples/c_samples/multi/
>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> ./multi_pdtest multi_test.pd `pwd`
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and got output:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> print: 0
>>>>>>>>>>> 1003-frequency: bang
>>>>>>>>>>> print: 0
>>>>>>>>>>> 1004-frequency: bang
>>>>>>>>>>> 1003-frequency: 1
>>>>>>>>>>> 1004-frequency: 2
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.000000 1.000000 0.999999 0.999999 0.999998 0.999998 0.999997 0.999997
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.000000 1.000000 0.999998 0.999998 0.999996 0.999996 0.999995 0.999995
>>>>>>>>>>> print: 1
>>>>>>>>>>> 0.999944 0.999944 0.999943 0.999943 0.999942 0.999942 0.999941 0.999941
>>>>>>>>>>> print: 1
>>>>>>>>>>> 0.999815 0.999815 0.999810 0.999810 0.999804 0.999804 0.999799 0.999799
>>>>>>>>>>> print: 2
>>>>>>>>>>> print: 2
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This on Fedora 21, 64 bits, Intel hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I guess something subtle is happening, maybe in Pd and unrelated to libpd?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>>>>> Miller
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 06:00:15PM -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy Miller,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Following up from the dev list last year, I added your multi instance test to the c samples included with libpd: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/tree/master/samples/c_samples/multi <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/tree/master/samples/c_samples/multi> <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/tree/master/samples/c_samples/multi <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/tree/master/samples/c_samples/multi>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The one thing I want to double check is the changes to z_libpd.c you mentioned in http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html: <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html:> <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html: <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html:>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's how I modified libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 55d54
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < sys_time = 0;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 110c109
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < sched_tick(sys_time + sys_time_per_dsp_tick);
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sched_tick();
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 130c129
>>>>>>>>>>>>> < sched_tick(sys_time + sys_time_per_dsp_tick); \
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sched_tick(); \
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, that line is https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c#L171 <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c#L171> <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c#L171 <https://github.com/libpd/libpd/blob/master/libpd_wrapper/z_libpd.c#L171>> and I’m getting a segfault if I replace it with sched_tick(); AND set gcc optimization to -O3
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here’s a gdb backtrace:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> #0 0x0000000100091f2f in outlet_float (x=0x3f7ffc2a3f7ffc38, f=0.999937057) at m_obj.c:388
>>>>>>>>>>>> #1 0x00000001000ac572 in pdfloat_bang (x=0x10021ac20) at x_connective.c:89
>>>>>>>>>>>> #2 0x0000000100093d58 in pd_bang (x=0x10021ac20) at m_pd.c:267
>>>>>>>>>>>> #3 0x0000000100091ddd in outlet_bang (x=0x10021ae20) at m_obj.c:363
>>>>>>>>>>>> #4 0x00000001000c45e4 in metro_tick (x=0x10021ada0) at x_time.c:162
>>>>>>>>>>>> #5 0x0000000100095021 in sched_tick () at m_sched.c:418
>>>>>>>>>>>> #6 0x00000001000c5d4d in libpd_process_float (ticks=1, inBuffer=0x7fff5fbffa50, outBuffer=0x7fff5fbff750) at z_libpd.c:173
>>>>>>>>>>>> #7 0x0000000100000d18 in main ()
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If I don’t optimize, it works fine:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> print: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1003-frequency: bang
>>>>>>>>>>>> print: 0
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1004-frequency: bang
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1003-frequency: 1
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1004-frequency: 2
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.000000 1.000000 0.999999 0.999999 0.999998 0.999998 0.999997 0.999997
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.000000 1.000000 0.999998 0.999998 0.999996 0.999996 0.999995 0.999995
>>>>>>>>>>>> print: 1
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.999944 0.999944 0.999943 0.999943 0.999942 0.999942 0.999941 0.999941
>>>>>>>>>>>> print: 1
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.999815 0.999815 0.999810 0.999810 0.999804 0.999804 0.999799 0.999799
>>>>>>>>>>>> print: 2
>>>>>>>>>>>> print: 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>>>>>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>>>>>>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> <http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com/>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> <http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com/>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Kjetil Matheussen <k.s.matheussen at gmail.com <mailto:k.s.matheussen at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But for libpd, are you sure you need to add anything? Can't just the user
>>>>>>>>>>>>> call the pdinstance_new and pd_setinstance functions directly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html> <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019832.html>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (BTW. When I wrote about libpds, I hadn't forgotten about the support for pd instances,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but since I didn't have all details in my head then, I didn't mention it. I should have though.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com> <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This should be possible with the current version of libpd which includes Miller’s multiple instance updates, see http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019839.html <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019839.html> <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019839.html <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2014-05/019839.html>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just haven’t gotten around to adding libpd-specific wrapper functions for this yet, but Miller provides code in that dev list exchange.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>>>>>>>>>> @danomatika
>>>>>>>>>>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> <http://danomatika.com/ <http://danomatika.com/>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> <http://robotcowboy.com/ <http://robotcowboy.com/>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 6:00 AM, pd-dev-request at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev-request at lists.iem.at> <mailto:pd-dev-request at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev-request at lists.iem.at>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Oliver Greschke <info at o-g-sus.de <mailto:info at o-g-sus.de> <mailto:info at o-g-sus.de <mailto:info at o-g-sus.de>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [PD-dev] Can somebody help to create a desktop / VST / AU version of a PD / libPD / app ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: April 21, 2015 at 3:15:44 AM EDT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: pd-dev at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev at lists.iem.at> <mailto:pd-dev at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-dev at lists.iem.at>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am the creator of the Elastic Drums iOS app (with great PD help from Matt Davey).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s made with PureData, libPD and Objective-C.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got asked a couple of times now, if there will be ever a standalone desktop version or even better Plugin (VST, AU) version of the app.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know, there are not ready to use workarounds to do so. Which is sad, because I can imagine a lot of fantastic plugins emerging from PD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Has somebody here some experience with doing such ports?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then please contact me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oliver
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> info at o-g-sus.de <mailto:info at o-g-sus.de> <mailto:info at o-g-sus.de <mailto:info at o-g-sus.de>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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