[PD-dev] Windows installer for Pd

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

On 2015-11-10 12:12, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-11-10 at 11:59 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
>> On 2015-11-10 11:29, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried to do all the work and would welcome some feedback.
>>
>> i think it's one of the beautiful sides of Pd that you do *not* need an
>> installer (even on windows!) and can run it from any media you like
>> (even if it's a read-only CD).
> 
> I don't get your point at all. The same applies to Debian GNU/Linux and
[...]

> it's mostly you who put _a lot_ of work into making things go smooth on
> those platforms (i.e. Debian and derivatives). Why are we discussing it
> with regards to Windows at all? Don't Windows users deserve the same
> amount of convenience?
> 
> "Not necessary" is not at all equivalent to "comfortable".  I definitely

??

i guess there is some misunderstanding here:
i find it *much more* convenient/comfortable to be able to download a
file from the internet and run it, without going through an install
procedure and without needing administrator priviliges.
that latter part i consider important, e.g. in the context of campus W32
installations, where users usually don't have the priviliges to
*install* software.

this is something that the current zipfile achieves: download, extract, run!
the only drawback i see is that you have to *extract* (but that's
reasonable enough for a multi-file project like Pd), something that can
be avoided for smaller projects (e.g. putty.exe).

as for "The same applies to Debian GNU/Linux":
yes and no. it's rather impractical to ship binaries for linux, that are
not specifically tailored to the system (due to the varied nature of
linux distributions).
but if you want to have a pd on your system without having admin
priviliges, then you can do that easily enough:
   ./configure && make && ./src/pd

i'm pretty sure this is *not* what you want for w32 users who don't have
admin rights.


>> probably the best thing would be to have a menu-entry (maybe hidden in
>> the "preferences"), where people could enable things like
>> file-association and startup menus with the click of a button).
> 
> It would be possible, sure. But name me one single other software that
> does it like that.

irfanview.

> It seems pretty established practice to let the
> package maintainer care about those things.

in any case, i don't think that the two (an installer, and being able to
register file associations from within Pd) are exclusive.

fgmasdr
IOhannes

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