[PD-dev] clone doesn't take vis message on left inlet when abstraction has signal for left inlet

[Alex]

I guess that makes sense as you wouldn't expect to have any inlet to your
clone if your abstraction didn't have any inlets. though then you couldn't
vis either..
Acknowledged!

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:

> No, there's no 'main inlet' - it's suppressed (as in [pd] and a couple of
> others).
>
> cheers
> M
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:56:30AM -0700, Alex wrote:
> > Either way, isn't [clone] a built in object so can't it take messages
> _and_
> > signals on its left inlet like [dac]? I guess maybe it sets up its inlets
> > to be the same as the abstraction which doesn't allow for that.. [haven't
> > looked at the guts].
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Good idea ... I have to think about whether this is possible to do.  If
> > > I could ake inlets that take both control and signal, then I could
> easily
> > > fix clone~ to take control messages like "vis" from inlets of either
> type.
> > >
> > > Also that might be the way for me to fix a long-standing bug - float
> > > messages
> > > to signal subpatch inlets don't work.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > Miller
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:42:18AM -0700, Alex wrote:
> > > > I'm on pd-0.47-1 binary downloaded from UCSD [mac 64-bit].
> > > >
> > > > I've created a clone of an abstraction that has the left inlet as a
> > > signal
> > > > inlet.. from the docs I'd expect I can send a |vis 5 1( message to
> that
> > > > inlet and display the patch but I can't. If I create another inlet,
> to
> > > the
> > > > right of that inlet, which is a control inlet, I can send the vis
> message
> > > > to that and my instance does pop up but it does seem to me that the
> |vis(
> > > > message should always go into the left inlet to keep things
> consistent?
> > > >
> > > > I attached an example, leftsig_test.pd is the patch to open.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, this clone stuff is really making me wish we could have
> abstractions
> > > > that take both a signal and control info on a single inlet [like dac
> and
> > > > some other tilde objects].. I've created a wrapper around clone to
> play
> > > > with cascading abstractions and it would be nice if I could have my
> > > wrapper
> > > > operate the same as I'm assuming clone should? I know there was
> > > discussion
> > > > before.. maybe [inlet~] could actually have 2 outlets, a signal
> outlet
> > > and
> > > > a control outlet?
> > > >
> > > > -Alex
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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