[PD-dev] clone doesn't take vis message on left inlet when abstraction has signal for left inlet

[Miller Puckette]

Correct... I haven't figured out how you can get messages to
contol-inlet-less clone~ copies :)


On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:25:04AM -0700, Alex wrote:
> I guess that makes sense as you wouldn't expect to have any inlet to your
> clone if your abstraction didn't have any inlets. though then you couldn't
> vis either..
> Acknowledged!
> 
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> 
> > No, there's no 'main inlet' - it's suppressed (as in [pd] and a couple of
> > others).
> >
> > cheers
> > M
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:56:30AM -0700, Alex wrote:
> > > Either way, isn't [clone] a built in object so can't it take messages
> > _and_
> > > signals on its left inlet like [dac]? I guess maybe it sets up its inlets
> > > to be the same as the abstraction which doesn't allow for that.. [haven't
> > > looked at the guts].
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Good idea ... I have to think about whether this is possible to do.  If
> > > > I could ake inlets that take both control and signal, then I could
> > easily
> > > > fix clone~ to take control messages like "vis" from inlets of either
> > type.
> > > >
> > > > Also that might be the way for me to fix a long-standing bug - float
> > > > messages
> > > > to signal subpatch inlets don't work.
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > > Miller
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:42:18AM -0700, Alex wrote:
> > > > > I'm on pd-0.47-1 binary downloaded from UCSD [mac 64-bit].
> > > > >
> > > > > I've created a clone of an abstraction that has the left inlet as a
> > > > signal
> > > > > inlet.. from the docs I'd expect I can send a |vis 5 1( message to
> > that
> > > > > inlet and display the patch but I can't. If I create another inlet,
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > right of that inlet, which is a control inlet, I can send the vis
> > message
> > > > > to that and my instance does pop up but it does seem to me that the
> > |vis(
> > > > > message should always go into the left inlet to keep things
> > consistent?
> > > > >
> > > > > I attached an example, leftsig_test.pd is the patch to open.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, this clone stuff is really making me wish we could have
> > abstractions
> > > > > that take both a signal and control info on a single inlet [like dac
> > and
> > > > > some other tilde objects].. I've created a wrapper around clone to
> > play
> > > > > with cascading abstractions and it would be nice if I could have my
> > > > wrapper
> > > > > operate the same as I'm assuming clone should? I know there was
> > > > discussion
> > > > > before.. maybe [inlet~] could actually have 2 outlets, a signal
> > outlet
> > > > and
> > > > > a control outlet?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Alex
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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