[PD-dev] [pure-data:bugs] #1272 midiout not working correctly on ALSA

Giulio Moro giuliomoro at yahoo.it
Sun Oct 16 20:27:55 CEST 2016

sorry I read your message again and found the answer to the latest question, so I have a new one, if you don't mind:in kmidimon did you see ALL of your bytes coming through or only some of them?
My point is: I believe that if you send bytes over an old-style MIDI connector, it should not matter how spaced in time they are: the receiver should be able to reconstruct the message. I expect that the same should happen for software connections. So, if bytes are dropped because of improper use of the API, then I understand the issue.But I would struggle to understand why it should fail if all the bytes are actually delivered.
I must say that a long time ago I was successfully controlling a Roland Sound Canvas over sysex generated in Pd-Extended 0.43.

      From: Albert Graef <aggraef at gmail.com>
 To: Giulio Moro <giuliomoro at yahoo.it> 
Cc: Ticket 1272 <1272 at bugs.pure-data.p.re.sf.net>; "pd-dev at lists.iem.at" <pd-dev at lists.iem.at>
 Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2016, 19:08
 Subject: Re: [PD-dev] [pure-data:bugs] #1272 midiout not working correctly on ALSA
Hi Giulio,

no, AFAICT that's not the way ALSA works. I haven't really looked in the ALSA code, but it seems that assembling the MIDI messages has to be done using the corresponding sequencer API calls. There might be some drivers which handle this, but I never had this working properly when outputting sysex using either internal ALSA connections or external MIDI gear via a USB-MIDI device.

All I can say is that the suggested patch seems to be the right way to do this (those API calls are there for a reason), and that it works for me with every MIDI equipment I tried it with.

On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Giulio Moro via Pd-dev <pd-dev at lists.iem.at> wrote:

Out of curiosity, is it not up to the receiving device to parse the received bytes in such a way that they form a coherent message? Or is there a "timeout" after which a sysex message is considered aborted ?I don't remember the latter from the specs, so I always assumed the former.Giulio

      From: Albert Graef <agraef at users.sf.net>
 To: pd-dev at lists.iem.at 
 Sent: Sunday, 16 October 2016, 18:17
 Subject: [PD-dev] [pure-data:bugs] #1272 midiout not working correctly on ALSA
 [bugs:#1272] midiout not working correctly on ALSAStatus: open
Group: v0.47
Created: Sun Oct 16, 2016 05:17 PM UTC by Albert Graef
Last Updated: Sun Oct 16, 2016 05:17 PM UTC
Owner: Miller PucketteThis has been there forever, and affects all Linux systems when using ALSA MIDI devices.sys_alsa_putmidibyte() in s_midi_alsa.c outputs individual bytes instead of complete MIDI messages. You can clearly see this, e.g., when sending a sysex message from Pd to an ALSA MIDI output and looking at the results in kmidimon. Instead of a proper sysex message you'll get a sequence of (malformed) single-byte messages.You can't just output single bytes of a multi-byte MIDI message with snd_seq_event_output_direct(), this only works with single-byte (such as system realtime) messages. The proper way to do this, so that it works with any MIDI message, is to use snd_midi_event_encode_byte() and output the message when it's complete. The following fix is from the pd-l2ork repo, but it should apply cleanly on the current pure-data master branch:
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