[PD-dev] Removing [output~]? (was [clone] with subpatches)

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

Em qui., 19 de jan. de 2023 às 17:14, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu>
escreveu:

> Aha, yes, let's do that.  It would be sort-of compatible with existing
> patches (just the control would be different.)
>
> One thing I never figured out was how to: (1) offer mono and stereo
> operation
> int he same object; and


Not sure what you mean, but I do have a hack that allows me to distribute a
mono input in the left inlet to both left and right output. I use it in my
[else/out~] abstraction.

Because [inlet~] now has an inlet for default value, I give it a ridiculous
default value of '10000', so when no signal is connected to the right
inlet, it outputs this stupid number and I check for it, it is equal to it
I do assume we have a mono input and route the left inlet to both channels.
Sounds good? Find attached a new object I'm starting from scratch with this
hack.


> (2) allow the level to be changed externally without
> havin to add another (confusing) inlet.


Well, [inlet~ fwd] allows us to do that now and in fact I have already
implemented it in the existing [output~] abstraction so it takes a 'level
message' to control the output level. I also use a bang message to control
the mute logic.


> So it's the lack of an all-around
> "best" way to do it that's held me back from putting something in "extra"
> so far.
>

Ok, let me continue to work on this one now then.

cheers



>
> But meanwhile, I think someday I should go ahead and split "extra" into
> true necessities (sigmund~, bonk~, and a couple of stupid compatibility
> objects) and things that are "useful" (such as the reverberators).  Again
> I've been held back by not having a clear definition of what I think those
> things should be :)
>
> M
>
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