Is there any work currently being done to make Pd patchs be compatable with Max/MSP? And on a minor note is David Z thinking about adding some of the funcionality of GEM to MSP? Thanks Shamus McConney mcconney at nwe.ufl.edu http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~mcconney/ http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~mcconney/Pd+.html