several bugs, etc. in pd 0.31 linux

[.] matthias tarasiewicz tarasiewicz at
Sun Jun 25 19:05:56 CEST 2000

----- Original Message -----
From: "Guenter Geiger" <geiger at>
To: "[.] matthias tarasiewicz" <tarasiewicz at>
Cc: <pd-list at>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 6:23 PM
Subject: several bugs, etc. in pd 0.31 linux

> [.] matthias tarasiewicz writes:
>  > i experienced some bugs in pd verision 0.31 unter linux, here is a
>  > list
>  > 2. after some time running pd, i couldn't save an opened patch with
>  > pages under "save as" -- pd always told me "open: no such file or
>  > or something like that
>  is this reproducible ? Did you try to save the patch in the same
>  directory as the original patch, or has it been a new patch ?

i tried the same directory  the original patch had been in, but also other
directories did not work
i just had this problem with the randomslicer patch on

>  > 3. i saved a patch with several pages and some sliders from the ggext
>  > library and after loading that patch it came up with no connections
>  > the objects and no sliders at all
>  what did they pd console (=terminal window) say. Normally it issues
>  warnings if it can't cerate objects or if connections fail.
>  Has this been the case ... was ggext loaded ?

i didn't look at the console - but the problem was that not only the missing
sliders - there were several number boxes and objects missing
-i will look at the console when this happens again

>  > 4. i also had the problem once, that pd overwrote a patch that had
>  > with ident names (i saved the patch under "save as" before -but the
>  > still had the same name) -- after saving all and reopening the patches,
>  > files were ident
>  >
>  if you want to save a "page" ("page" means a pd subwindow which was
>  created with the "page" or "pd" object), you always save the parent
>  patch of the page together with all its subpages .. pages are part of
>  the parent patch. If you want to isolate them from the parent, you
>  have to create a new patch with "new" and copy/paste the pages
>  content.
>  .. I'm not sure if that solves the problem you had, because I didn't
>  really understand it.

i think the problem was that i clicked on "save" in one of the pages - but
why one of the patches had been overwritten is not clear to me...

>  > questions
>  >
>  > a. i wanted to have a slider that has a range that could be set per
inlet --
>  > i didn't get that with ggext sliders - some ideas how to do this?
>  > b. i had the problem, that the state object from the ggext library did
>  > work properly - sometimes it restored the saved values but most of the
>  > it restored always the same values, that had never been stored before
>  > (mostly zeroes)
>  The state object really has a problem if you use symbols, this is
> fixed in the upcoming release.
> And, as ost mentioned, saved states from "old" patches set all later added
> numberboxes to zero.
> If your problem doesn't fall into these two categories, then I have to
> know in which reproducible cases state fails.
> On my side it rather looks like that most of the time state succeeds,
> and only sometimes fails.
> Ah, and yes, if you use more than one state object, you have to give
> it a name, otherwise it will get confused.
> Guenter

i remember having used symbols in most of the cases, but also number boxes
and sliders went to zero i think
-- i will try to reproduce this setting and post it...

>  > c. it would be very helpful to have a list of all (or at least the most
>  > important) objects and created patches available - with a short
>  > --maybe it would be a great idea to have an archive in the web where
>  > these are listed with links (all on one and not on 5000 different
>  >
>  >

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