Hi all, I recompiled the ggext library (under Win98) and at startup PD console shows the following warning: error: envgen_sustain: only 5 arguments are typecheckable; use A_GIMME GGEXT: Guenter Geiger GGEXT: ver: unknown GGEXT: compiled: Jul 28 2000 What is A_GIMME? best -- Gabriel Maldonado http://web.tiscalinet.it/G-Maldonado